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Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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It's obviously the car. Otherwise you would have heard of this problem well before now.

Hmmm, what about these 10 or so comments of iPhone users with various cars?

It's quite clear that all those cars are sending a play command.

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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post #447

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This drives me crazy as I don't use Apple Music and I don't want to keep playing handful of songs I bought 15 years ago on iTunes. I've yet to find out how to disable this.

Delete the Apple Music app from your phone.

Yep, I have it disabled. My main music apps are “Picky” and Bandcamp, and it works pretty well.

When they do start autoplaying in the car (Picky does it), it’s at least whatever I album I was last playing on the app.

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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My car (Lexus) and my iPhone X: The car detects iPhone presence, like, 50% of the time. If it does detect it, it shows me a couple of half-naked shaved guys hugging each other and begins playing "Songs of Innocence" the moment I turn the ignition on. I tried deleting this song from the iPhone, but it auto-magically restores itself somehow, as if it is in the telephone's firmware. The image of men hugging in shade is…

This happens to me every time I enter my car while on a Zoom call; the bluetooth or even the hardwired headset would switch to the car speakers and the call gets unmuted. I need to scramble to mute the call while my daughter is screaming at the back. Can't get it to work.

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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But why the hell is it autoplaying in the first place? Does apple really hate their customers/users so much that they can't make this an option? That's completely insane. The more I learn about apple, the more I see extremely hostile UI decisions for literally no reason

As others have already explained, the autoplay is because the car sends a "play" command as soon as the bluetooth connects. From the auto manufacturer's perspective, this kinda "makes sense". Because that was the legacy behavior, pre-bluetooth. If you turn off your car with the radio playing, then the radio will start playing again the next time you crank up the car. If drivers didn't want that, then hey... they woul…

I think the design is actually for us under 60, who got into the car listening to a podcast on earbuds, and want to continue listening as we drive off.

What I can't get over is that I can be driving the car for 3 minutes before the podcast I was just listening to will play in my car (which does not have this play command quirk).

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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I tried to learn why BT is still somehow painful to use, and the article basically does not have an answer. My take from comments here and my experience: - Makers of BT devices can't agree on many important common things (easy discovery / pairing mode, priority, etc), and have little incentive to seek agreement. It's like phone chargers before USB. - Makers of BT devices tend to cut corners and/or add not-entirely-st…

BT device makers are also coming in a slightly less explored field and have to make UX decisions that might not have clear answers yet. For instance some BT headset have only a few buttons, and the play/pause button does also redial the last connected phone number depending on the phone’s state. I’m sure someone thought this feature made a ton of sense and really helps them in their day to day life, while I hate with…

Config files/settings.

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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Ok, so since 2009 everyone except Apple was on USB.

2009 is when the EU stepped in. They didn't have to set it into law because the industry agreed to it voluntarily except for Apple.

"industry agreed to it voluntarily" China before eu(~1-2y) forces usb chargers. and industry had choice, make special version for them or not.

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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post #120

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You have a gift for writing humorously.

Sorry, what was the humorous writing there? Seemed like a pretty direct statement of the facts of their case. The fact that underlying events are funny doesn't say anything about the style of writing, and I don't see any stylistic choices that were going for "deliberately humorous writing", let alone ones that show a gift (though of course the poster might show it in other contexts!).

Woah. This comment is hilarious, but it's not the writing.

But to explain the humorous aspects of the poster's story, it's the naked men that he sprinkles throughout the story. Mentioning it multiple times is what makes it funny among funny bits.

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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post #120

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I also have an alarm set up I cannot delete. It says "pick up Matt from school." It migrated all the way from iPhone 7 to this X. But he has grown up since and I don't need to pick him up anymore. I'll include this in my request.

You have a gift for writing humorously.

Yeah, his story cracked me up.

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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post #418

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Because they're the ones programming iOS? Who else would decide it, it's not like iOS is an open source project

It's obviously the car. Otherwise you would have heard of this problem well before now.

The car may send the request to play, but the OS decides to play the same song again and again and again...

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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Bad audio quality with bluetooth on phones is mostly a myth. Todays smartphones only have cheap digital audio converters(DAC), so that you usually get higher quality music with a proper bluetooth codec like aptx.

But... Does the quality of a phone's DAC matter? I was under the impression that Bluetooth is digital audio. And the quality issue is with the bandwidth mostly or the headset DAC sucks.

Correct, the point was that the phones dac only matters when using the phones built in speaker, if you are using a blutooth audio device, then what matters for sound quality is the dac in the bluetooth device.
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