It's just American exceptionalism and protectionism. Same for trying to ban Turkey selling drones, Europe using Huawei, Europe buying Russian gas instead of American LNG, etc.
FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores
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Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores
#542Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The problem should be that the data is collected and provided to the government whenever they want - not that it's not the Chinese government. We had this discussion after the Snowden leaks and nothing changed whatsoever. Back then it was the US government and the US gov had the chance to change the rules so this could not happen. Now they're up in arms because other governments do the exact same thing. It's really…
> The differentiator here is national security, Which means that all countries other than the US also should be banning Facebook, and most US companies. As Snowden showed, most of them have a history of wire fraud.
Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores
#543Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Who cares? Is this an American thing to always brag something about race, or how much "non-racist we are"? Nobody gives a sh* here. As another European who lives in Asia, I don't understand this European love of blanket ranting against Americans. Yes, the US still has a racism problem. In fact, every country in the world has racism problems. That doesn't make the topic of who can get elected irrelevant. Can you ima…
> Can you imagine ANY kind of foreigner getting elected into government in China Obama was/is african-american, not a foreigner
Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores
#544Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The problem should be that the data is collected and provided to the government whenever they want - not that it's not the Chinese government. We had this discussion after the Snowden leaks and nothing changed whatsoever. Back then it was the US government and the US gov had the chance to change the rules so this could not happen. Now they're up in arms because other governments do the exact same thing. It's really…
> The differentiator here is national security, Which means that all countries other than the US also should be banning Facebook, and most US companies. As Snowden showed, most of them have a history of wire fraud.
Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores
#545Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because it's US vs China and companies like Meta/Google/Twitter are already treated poorly in China? Ppl are already asking these kind of questions even long before this, why should we allow companies such as Tiktok while so many 'Western' tech companies are banned in China?
Are they? Which companies are those?
Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores
#546Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The problem should be that the data is collected and provided to the government whenever they want - not that it's not the Chinese government. We had this discussion after the Snowden leaks and nothing changed whatsoever. Back then it was the US government and the US gov had the chance to change the rules so this could not happen. Now they're up in arms because other governments do the exact same thing. It's really…
> The differentiator here is national security, Which means that all countries other than the US also should be banning Facebook, and most US companies. As Snowden showed, most of them have a history of wire fraud.
In case you hadn't heard (I presume you have, us being on HN and all), there is some movement within the EU towards that end
Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores
#547Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The USA ranks 26th for median wealth Wealth is also a function of age - older people tend to have more - and that ranking is not normalized by such extraneous factors. The US is number 2 by median income, and number 1 for median disposable income, both of which are pretty important, especially to younger people that want cash flow to enjoy life.
Why would you normalize for age?
For example, in the US the median network for an 69 year old (right around retirement) is over 33 times as much as an 18 year old [1], with values in between spread as expected. So a society with significantly more old people (such as Japan) would have higher median wealth but not necessarily more income (for example, US pays more than Japan on average [2], but we're younger).
So, if you move to Japan from the US assuming you'll end up richer, you may be making a mistake because you made that choice based on comparing things incorrectly.
This is why it matters.
[1] https://dqydj.com/net-worth-by-age-calculator-united-states/
[2] https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/japan/usa?sc=XE...
Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores
#548Earlier quoted context omitted.
multipolar worlds have not worked well in the past. As an American, I would love for the EU to get more unified and take the reins, but in the mean time, a US hegemon is required for global stability
>"US hegemon is required for global stability" This is laughable. The US initiated way too many wars and other offensive / disruptive actions. If you call this stability then I have a bridge to sell. The only stability it provides is it's own. Well maybe some to the allies.
During pax americana, we've seen massive increases in quality of life around the world. Do you think the world is going to be more stable as the US retreats and other players fill the power vacuum and we have to deal with the rising threat of climate change?
Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores
#549Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores
#550Of course not. Every government is going to look out for themselves. Following your reasoning, look at China. They have their own playbook for operating within China, and it is quite restrictive. They make it harder for foreign entities to do business within China. From a geopolitical viewpoint this makes complete sense. You don't want your rival to have a backdoor into influencing/manipulating/discovering how people…
Facebook and Google have a NSA servers that get all the traffic even before they reach them and have complete access into their info, then you can't complain when Chinese do the same, after all, they are admiring USA and copying what we are doing.
If we want Chinese to do better, we need to do better, they will follow.