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Re: Shaving is an example of how consumer products extract more money

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Post by asdff »

tempest_ wrote: post #64
yial wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t want to risk sounding disgusting, I use a Mach III to shave my face…daily. Now I have a beard, so I don’t shave my whole face. Neck, cheeks … but I get 6 months to a year out of one cartridge on these. Having just replaced, I agree 100% about the lubrication strip.

You can get the cartridges to last quite a while if you strop them (as best you can) and keep them away from moisture when not in use. I have heard of some people just putting them in a tiny glass of mineral oil. That said for as often as I shave, a couple times a week, I switched to a safety razor and got a sampler of double sided blades years ago. I am just about out of blades now and you can get 100 for like 10$.

I used mineral oil but it clogged the crap out of my sink constantly. Just leaving the razor out to air dry has been fine for me.

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Post by gruez »

sinsterizme wrote: post #433
gruez wrote: post #401

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>But the ingredient still obviously makes it way to the final product Plastic is made from oil. Do you think there's literally oil in your plastic water bottle?

Sorry I didn’t mean it like a logical conclusion. Here’s a study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17593716/

The linked study reported 7-337 ng of PFOA emitted per pan, over the span of 20 minutes. According to [1], the concentration of PFOA in the average american's blood is 2.1 μg/L, which is orders of magnitude more. I concede that there's technically some PFOAs left over in pans, but I stand by my claims that the pans themselves are a non-issue.

[1] https://www.healthvermont.gov/sites/default/files/documents/...

Re: Shaving is an example of how consumer products extract more money

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Post by asdff »

ascar wrote: post #53
kvakvs wrote: post #41

Hair trimmer set to shortest length will make your face like shaven 2 days ago. Costs nothing. Needs no foam, no aftershave gel, creates no irritation or red skin, just splash of water and optional facial creme. My condolences to those who must have a clean shave every day of their life.

The issue with that is when wearing a 3-14 day beard you should still shave the neckline clean every few days. It just looks so much better.

You can get away with just using a clipper without a guard to tidy up the neck

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Post by switchbak »

idontknowifican wrote: post #202
steelframe wrote: post #50

Semi-serious cyclist chiming in about this part of the article: "Well understood mechanical bike shifting transitions to electronic shifting which requires you to pay more and charge your pedal bike (Not sure about this example, as in theory a bike derailleur needs not be a repeated purchased)" One of my bikes has a Shimano electronic shifter. The others are a mix between mechanical SRAM and Shimano components. The e…

i think the real digital advantage is mid-ride fine tuning. nothing like hearing a chain rub, setting the Di2 to adjust mode, and moving it till it doesn’t make noise. it’s amazing because the effect of your power in the stroke on the chain alignment is vital, and always missed when tuning a derailleur in a stand

I'm a mountain biker, so I may have a different perspective.

I just flip the bike and dial in the adjustment by eye and spinning the crank. Assuming the derailleur isn't bent, this is usually just about perfect.

I get what you're saying about power being a variable in adjustment, I just haven't found that it's a concern for me. Maybe MTB drivetrains have less flex/are less succeptible to that, or I'm just too unsophisticated to realize :)

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Post by secondcoming »

mrob wrote: post #418
jader201 wrote: post #398

Why is a thread on electric razors not the top comment on a post about the expense/waste of straight razors? I get that they have some downsides, but if we’re talking about the expense/waste of straight razors, then it would make sense to consider electric razors. I’ve seen so many ads about companies trying to “invent” the most effective, lowest cost straight razor and it still confuses me, given we already have ele…

I started shaving a few years ago with a cheap Chinese electric razor. It needs cleaning occasionally but is otherwise trouble free. It shaves close enough to get a good respirator seal, which is close enough for me. It's impossible to injure myself with it, and it's so easy to use that I can literally shave while browsing the web. Unless you are concerned with getting the closest shave possible, electric seems the o…

With electric I find myself missing bits of hair occasionally. That doesn't really happen with a wet shave since the foam tracks where you've shaved.

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Post by nkozyra »

watwut wrote: post #406
SergeAx wrote: post #370

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For eggs it is about the same, egg's white is thin enough on a skillet and its down side is fully immersed into oil.

This is just not true. Not even if you have a single egg on super large pan. And you can also use smaller pan or more eggs, that way it will be even higher. Just because you have drowning eggs in oil does not mean everyone does it that way.

Mine take ~ 1 tsp for three eggs. I let the pan get hot enough that it slides around with water like viscosity, spread it evenly with a paper towel and throw the eggs on.

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Post by AlbertCory »

One of the few objects from my dad (RIP) that I still have is his shaving brush. He didn't use a straight razor, though, in case you're wondering.

Now if one of you says you use one of those, you've got my undying respect.

(Never used it, though. I'm an electric razor guy myself.)

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Post by ghostly_s »

jader201 wrote: post #398

Why is a thread on electric razors not the top comment on a post about the expense/waste of straight razors? I get that they have some downsides, but if we’re talking about the expense/waste of straight razors, then it would make sense to consider electric razors. I’ve seen so many ads about companies trying to “invent” the most effective, lowest cost straight razor and it still confuses me, given we already have ele…

Your talking about electric 'shavers'. "Electric razors" AFAIK don't exist. There are plenty of good options for keeping your hair neat but I've never seen of one that can give you the type of clean shave you get with a plain ol fashioned razor, at least not if you have coarse/dark hair.

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Post by pacaro »

jader201 wrote: post #455
rhacker wrote: post #447

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I think it's preference. I started out using electric when I first started shaving when I was like 16 or something. As soon as I tried actual razors I couldn't go back. Been like 26 years now.

I guess it’s hard to imagine the upsides of straight razors justifying the (apparent) downsides. I mean, other than a somewhat closer shave, it seems like everything else about them is worse (expense, waste, time/effort, mess, cuts/removing skin, ingrown hairs).

So TFA addresses the expense/waste issue. If you're using a safety razor (or a leaf[1] if you prefer the multi blade style), and are buying blades from feather or similar.

Technique will eliminate ingrown hairs/cuts etc,

The exfoliation provided by using a razor (disposable, safety, or straight) is something some people find desirable (see also microblading) YMMV

Time and effort is more interesting to me. For me the time spent shaving (and on other parts of self care) is part of the value of shaving in the first place. This isn't a process that I choose to speed up

As for travelling, I use a soap puck rather than shaving foam or cream, so TSA doesn't care about that, blades are more of a crap shoot.

[1] https://leafshave.com — I use one of these for armpits and back hair, and then a traditional style merker for face

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