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Remember that this group's tools have been used to murder journalists, which they are unapologetic about.
Dead journalists can't close them down, but the US government can.
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> In principle, America could drop Hellfire R9X sword missiles through the cars of every NSO employee. The next step isn't to blow them up, the next step is to sue them. I just assume the IDF and Shin Bet would like to be the only ones who blow up civilians in Israel, but I can't think of a single reason why the Israeli government would oppose an extradition request if they were presented with evidence of cyber-whate…
> I can't think of a single reason why the Israeli government would oppose an extradition request if they were presented with evidence of cyber-whatever. If an American company would get caught doing the similar, would US allow extradition request of those people to some other country?
This is what extradition treaties are for. The specific laws involved and the evidence matter a lot.
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U.S. weapons manufacturers receive a lot of criticism too, both domestically in the U.S. and internationally. The comments here focus on NSO because the story is about what NSO did. This is computer tech kind of community so you’re going to see more computer weapon stories here than stories about improper use of rifles.
The U.S sells super sophisticated weapons such as attack drones, F-15s or nuclear submarines. The tech behind these things is probably super interesting and there's a lot of software involved. If you look at the comments here, around 90% of them don't care about the tech at all but focus on bashing Israel. This isn't a tech story.
And yes I'm acutely aware that the CIA literally ran torture training camps in the 1970s but two wrong don't make something right.
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Well since they do the exploitation on behalf of customers, yes? NSO is very popular with governments that don't have robust domestic intelligence because all you have to do is type a phone number into a web form and in anywhere from an hour to a week you get a point and click GUI for accessing the contents of the phone.
My thought was that the customer runs the server provided by NSO. I though the web form is running off of a webserver in a building owned by the customer.
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Really, all you need is a subtle suggestion to the Israeli government that the hundred billions or so dollars they receive from the US every year might be impacted by continued NSO bad publicity.
that number is way off, and the money they "receive", is specifically for use with US defence contracts and deals.. Its like Disneyland giving you Disneydollars.. You can only spend them at Disneyland.. It is a way for the US military-industrial complex to stay afloat.. And it is a drop in the bucket for Israeli Defence spending, and would make little difference if they took it out.
Threat of removing 20% of Israeli defense budget [1] would hypothetically be plenty enough to apply serious political pressure, and thats just the money, forgetting the political support and the deterrent US support provides them.
[1] https://usafacts.org/articles/how-much-military-aid-does-the...
This is a typical "shadow government" symptom. You have forces working within the government that 1) have their own agendas; 2) have connection to international communities, usually military-intelligence ones; 3) have almost zero regulation; 4) even many high ranking government officials don't know about them because they are brotherhood-like closed circles. This reminds me of Operation Gladio or Propaganda Due but d…
“Shadow government” = “Deep state”?
It's often taught in political classes and it isn't a conspiracy that there exists a "deep state" or "shadow goverment".
For example, the roman elite troop, the Praetorian Guards, can be classified as a "deep state", as they had their own goals and if they were not meet, then they would just kill the emperor. At the same time, the emporer and the senat had almost no control over the Praetorian Guard.
Is anyone working on a microkernel design for privacy-sensitive devices (like phones) that would prevent outright this class of kernel-level arbitrary code execution exploits? We're stuck with iOS and Android for the foreseeable future, but is there hope that we'll get this right some day? Actually, would a microkernel design even be sufficient? Given that hackers exploit deserialization, memory safety, and variable…
> NSO Group said in a statement on Thursday that it did not have any indication their tools were used but canceled the relevant accounts and would investigate based on the Reuters inquiry. Why would they cancel accounts without knowledge of wrongdoing?
Remember that this group's tools have been used to murder journalists, which they are unapologetic about.