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Re: Under the skin of OnlyFans

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Your description of pre-WWII Germany is overly idyllic. We would not had WWII if pre-WWII Germans were that happy. The Germany was pretty violent, unstable place with serious economical problems including homelessness. The whole phenomenon of young men fighting on the streets with political opponents had a lot to do with them being unhappy about their place and options in society. Some people and marriages were happy…

Surely, that's why I added "with the exception of the war (a significant exemption, true)" . I only describe Germany in this way because it's the country where I have the deepest roots and speak the language. I am sure this sentiment would mirror across most of Europe, absent the many horrors and tragedies of the 20th century. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I'd like to go back and live in the 20th century, but I…

I was not talking about war. I was talking about period between wars.

From after WWI till dictatorship, Germany was violent place with regular street fights and tons on social problems. After Hitler took power, it continued to be violent place, tho in somewhat different way.

Re: Under the skin of OnlyFans

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post #296

I’m not anti-sex or anti-sex work, but I think onlyfans is evil. They have a business model, that is perfected to extract as much money from whales as possible. Performers appear to have ‘relationships’ with their subscribers, encourage them to tip, buy ‘customs’, and ‘engage’ with them. These sad lonely sexless men spend all their money on this shit. It consumes them, until they are out of money, then it destroys th…

I'm sure there are some people who match the description you offer, but what evidence do we have that "It consumes them, until they are out of money, then it destroys them" or that they make up "a large proportion of their revenue" to the degree that the business model would fail without them? And could you not paint an equally disturbing picture about other industries and interests? Like gambling, drinking or people…

Here's me thinking one of the reasons OFs is so successful is the rock bottom subscription fees when compared to other adult sites.

Re: Under the skin of OnlyFans

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So our kids are getting older so I've been paying more attention to popular social networks and it's wild how many YouTubers, Twitch'ers, TikTok'ers, Instagram'ers have OF content directly linked from their non-porn bios. I don't like it, but I'm not sure what a good solution is. I mean, people are free to do what they'd like, but it's hard to police screen time 100% of the time and their peer group has a lot more ac…

Related, it sucks that so much content nowadays is just a thinly veiled advertisement for OF pages.

You can blame OnlyFans themselves. No search. No way to advertise on the platform. No discoverability.

Re: Under the skin of OnlyFans

#544

Interesting discussion about OnlyFans recently released for anyone interested. https://open.spotify.com/episode/50q2Ff1ysf8lXT0XXQJEUb?si=L...

I'll pass on Bari Weiss but Courtland did an Indie Hackers episode with two OnlyFans creators.

https://pca.st/a4elqfcm

Re: Under the skin of OnlyFans

#545
post #74

Fire up the throwaway! Not 100% related to the article, but directly related. I worked as developer for a product in the same niche ("democratizing adult content"). I spent almost 2 years working on the frontend, devops, and building out the analytics engine (all pre-covid). Anyway, on to the comment at hand. We had a small number of users compared to OnlyFans (when I left, there were about 20K active content creator…

I think in general there are some pretty big costs that aren't fully understood to doing sex work, even outside of the social stigma of being found out by your friends and family, there are mental health costs that are often not talked about. A lot of sex workers overtly reinforce social behaviors towards women (sexualization and objectification among other things) in order to appeal to men, which hurts them in the l…

I think it all reflects badly in how unsophisticated society still is with handling the most natural thing in the world--sex. The ridiculous morals of yesteryear still carry the day.

Re: Under the skin of OnlyFans

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post #430

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This is in no way exclusive to porn. After running a B2C business for a while I realized that if, as an owner, you should be wary of some people, it needs to be your biggest, most vocal fans. They are the most emotionally attached, feeling they’ve personally invested their money, time and faith into your brand and they are the most violent when disappointed. At some point they all expect special treatment, which make…

Your vocal B2C fans go digitally nuclear on you? What B2C industry are you in?

There was the (hilariously unsuccessful) attempt to review bomb Factorio a few weeks ago, after some fans got upset about a video the lead dev linked to in a blog post. It seems to be most common in creative industries, eg. Video games, music, movies, etc. Probably because those are the products that people get the most emotionally attached to.

Re: Under the skin of OnlyFans

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I strongly disagree and would argue that we usually only get to "then" by active struggle, not just by waiting around. And yes, I absolutely do think that normalization of sex, both for profit and otherwise, is an indispensable part of a more accepting world. OnlyFans has already helped move that needle considerably.

Active struggle to get more people onto OF?

Active struggle to change restrictive norms.

Re: Under the skin of OnlyFans

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While I might ethically disagree with their business model I don't think your assessment is fair. Their platform is certainly a step up from those same individuals getting into the industrial porn industry.

But the vast majority of them wouldn't get involved in the industrial porn industry, so you reduce the harm to a small number of people while increasing the harm (by a lesser degree) to a much larger number of people.

This is a great claim that has no evidence.

Re: Under the skin of OnlyFans

#549
post #132

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>the titles sound so much more vulgar in Dutch than they do in English to me. It's the other way around: you're less emotionally connected to your second language. You're not phased by the most scurrilous elements of English, because of a combination of factors (like the way your brain processes a second language, and the fact that you did not grow up in a native English culture). Whereas you have a primary connectio…

This is so much true. It's almost like swearing in English is not swearing at all, even in semi-formal context. You can tell the worst swear in English you can think of, and it just sounds harmless compared to swearing in local language.

> It's almost like swearing in English is not swearing at all

I feel the same way about apologizing in a 2nd language.

I'll overly apologize on minor inconveniences because the words don't carry the weight of saying "sorry, sorry, sorry" in English.

Re: Under the skin of OnlyFans

#550
post #538

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Getting naked on camera vs killing people in foreign countries - I know which one I'd like my children to pick.

Getting abused by pimps vs protecting their mother country - I know which one I'd like my children to pick. Choosing the extreme version of one and the benign version of the other seems pretty handy.

One upside of OnlyFans is that you do not need a pimp.
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