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Post by eyelidlessness »

dang wrote: post #534
eyelidlessness wrote: post #529

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wasn’t objecting to playing it by ear. I was objecting to committing to doing so and keeping it arbitrary. Edit so I can hopefully make the spirit of my own complaint more clear: my puppy is defiant and stubborn and clever and a big doofus. Rules are a living document and they get revised all the time. If I communicate them and my expectations we grow together and move on to the next misunderstanding with some grac…

In that case I don't think we're so far apart. I wasn't "just deciding" to arbitrarily change things. Someone asked me how we'd handle a particular kind of rare situation and I answered based on established practice. In fact, if you read my comment closely, it's not hard to discern what the principles are: (1) being transparent with the community, (2) protecting people's safety and privacy, (3) if there's a conflict…

This comment came while I was writing my last response but I want to say, thank you this is clarifying and helps a lot.

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Post by random314 »

dang wrote: post #532
Judgmentality wrote: post #436

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I think you are unwittingly coloring your words, likely because you are frustrated by this post (it's petty drama you want to downvote but policy says you can't, and you have inside information you can't share). This is like subtle apophasis, where you're implying that the tweeter (wow that sounds so weird) is on the wrong side. I'm not taking sides here, despite being a YC alum (alternate account) I stopped looking…

Unwittingly? That's fightin words.

Please adhere to hacker news guidelines https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by [deleted] »

xtracto wrote: post #488
dasickis wrote: post #120

I'm the person this original tweet was about. None of you know any of the internal details but what I can state is that Paul has no idea what he's talking about and later admits to the fact I wasn't lying. Here's the order of events: 1. I went to a neighborhood clinic in Oakland, CA that's literally next door to my house, I can see the church from my window. Paul lives in NYC which is on the opposite end of the count…

It baffles me how people get outraged when other people get vaccinated out of "order" . Here in Mexico there's a lot of ruckus because of people going to Texas to get vaccine. Or when doctors vaccinated themselves and their families. My thought is... when it comes to vaccines. It doesn't matter who goes first and who goes later. The fact that someone (anyone) is vaccinated helps us all. I still dont have the vaccine…

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Post by dasickis »

mbgerring wrote: post #512
dasickis wrote: post #365

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Since most of these self-righteous comments below still have no idea what they're talking about. The site was for overflow of vaccines that were going unused & being thrown out. The Oakland Coliseum is one of these mega-sites. So many of you don't understand the on-the-ground realities of the communities you're speaking of where I live. I see my neighbors and when FEMA is running these sites they know their goals. It…

From what other people who saw your original post have said, it sounds like you got significant pushback at the time, and that you knew that you were skirting the eligibility criteria as you understood it. As I’m sure you are aware, the brunt of COVID infections and deaths in the Bay Area were borne mostly by our Black and Latinx neighbors, especially those who continued to work during the pandemic, serving those of…

read the papers I linked and you'll realize that these sites have challenges with getting people vaccinated due to lack of trust in government and healthcare in general

it's been 3 months since that clinic and many people here are still hesitant to get vaccinated

these issues remain because few people understand how deep distrust runs especially in Oakland where people have seen the massive destruction caused by government agencies

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Post by TeMPOraL »

jachee wrote: post #339
throwaway0a5e wrote: post #179

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Memes pack more information and context into less content. We're basically going through a mini printing press style communications revolution right now. Before (say 1999) you had print which was cheap and audiovisual which was expensive/time consuming. Now thanks to tech audiovisual content is something the masses can use to communicate and it's affecting culture greatly.

“Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra.”

Almost. Tamarians were using references to shared cultural stories. Many, but not all, memes work like that. This meme is of a different kind - it packs emotional payload mostly directly, with only a reference to a simple activity and related concept (popcorn + Internet drama).

Put another way, if you consider a story to be a collection of handles (in programming sense, like a pointer) to concepts and emotions, then Tamarians communicate by speaking handles to stories. That's one level of indirection extra over this meme, which itself is a (simple) story - a collection of handles to concepts and emotions.

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Post by PhantomGremlin »

doctor_eval wrote: post #449
dang wrote: post #392

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Oh yes that's clear, but it's also bloody clever and you get points for that. I'm sorry if my reference seemed like a swipe; I was just trying to speak duck with you. When people say this kind of stuff to me, I try not to take it personally because the truth is that you don't know me and I don't know you; what you're saying is not what you think of me , it's what you think of the image that you've constructed from a…

I don’t know how you do this, dang, but I certainly wish I had your level of chill.

I think I could last about a week doing his job. Maybe a month.

I don't think $1,000,000 USD would be enough to entice me to do the job for a year. It would be too stressful.

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Post by kubb »

eat_veggies wrote: post #100
kubb wrote: post #38

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Why is that confusing? If you condemn the in-group publicly, it's a sign of betrayal, and they kick you out. Monkeys strong together, that's all there is to it.

It's cool and reassuring that YC has no principles or morals other than "monkeys strong together"

There are no rules about these kinds of things in private organizations, so it defaults to the instinctive human behavior.

Whenever you hear about the "greats" of the industry, you can be aware that they rose to prominence through navigating power structures built on such principles.

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Post by neonological »

ggm wrote: post #518
neonological wrote: post #511

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The point is a person in his position can only say one thing. "I downweight posts in the interest of the community not in the interest of YC." Whether this statement is true or not is irrelevant as it is the only thing he will say. It is unreasonable to think he will say the opposite of the above. He will not say "HN regularly censors posts that are against the interests of YC." This will never be said because both v…

You're not addressing the point. You said he only downweights for one reason. Plainly, he has declared consistency in downweighting for many reasons. No amount of self justification changes the fact you said he ONLY downweights for one reason, and that's factually incorrect. What he did in this specific case? Different matter. What he does as a matter of both stated policy and declared intent and I would suggest, evi…

>Why can't you just accept that and say so? What's blocking you from acknowledging your own words are just incorrect?

Very simple logic. He's in a position where he can lie. Conflict of interest. He's paid by the company who sponsors this news site. Why can't you get this simple logic through your head?

>You said he only downweights for one reason.

Please read my post. I said what I meant WAS THIS: The only thing Dang can say is that when he downweights posts he can only SAY that he does so in the interest of the HN community. That's it. Mainly the point is because this is ONLY what he can SAY (keyword) you can't trust what he says, because of a CONFLICT of INTEREST. Get it? Take note I capitalized some words for emphasis to help you understand exactly what I'm saying. The language I use is specific and exact.

>You're not addressing the point.

I am addressing the point. The point is I'm not wrong at all and I'm telling you why. That's really all you need to get through your head.

>What he did in this specific case? Different matter.

What he did in this specific case IS ENTIRELY the point. It is NOT a different matter. ANY thing off this point is off topic. My initial post is completely and only addressing the point. I think your mind is wandering from point to point not latching on the main topic.

>What he does as a matter of both stated policy and declared intent and I would suggest, evidence is different. He downweights for a range of reasons.

Your suggestion is noted. And I suggest there's a conflict of interest here. There.

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Post by julianapostate »

dasickis wrote: post #545
mbgerring wrote: post #512

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what other people who saw your original post have said, it sounds like you got significant pushback at the time, and that you knew that you were skirting the eligibility criteria as you understood it. As I’m sure you are aware, the brunt of COVID infections and deaths in the Bay Area were borne mostly by our Black and Latinx neighbors, especially those who continued to work during the pandemic, serving those of…

read the papers I linked and you'll realize that these sites have challenges with getting people vaccinated due to lack of trust in government and healthcare in general it's been 3 months since that clinic and many people here are still hesitant to get vaccinated these issues remain because few people understand how deep distrust runs especially in Oakland where people have seen the massive destruction caused by gove…

What massive destruction? Have vaccines been a net health deficit for these groups?
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