Live data from Hacker News

Voltswagen of America

media.vw.com

541–550 of 632 posts

Re: Voltswagen of America

#541

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe they grew tired of Americans pronouncing it wrong (most V are still pronounced as F, Vettel, Volkswagen etc.) ;-) Edit: This German apologizes for an attempt at a humorous / sarcastic comment and will revert to work-machine state at once. Beep boop.

Americans are pronouncing it perfectly correctly as most of us speak English and not German.

Um, that doesn't make an incorrect pronunciation correct. That's not how anything works.

Re: Voltswagen of America

#542
post #179

I previously owned a VW, but swore on my life that I'd never buy another one after the emissions cheating scandal. There are plenty of reasons why a VW likely wont be my next choice, but I'm softening my stance a bit. What they did was absolutely reprehensible, but I later learned that the more accurate story is that they bore the brunt of media attention for something that nearly every auto manufacturer was later fo…

I'm confused. My understanding is that all cars showed discrepancies between in-lab and on-road tests, due to overoptimizing the ECU for lab conditions. However, AFAIU, only VW had an "if in_lab: reduce_polution()" line in their ECU. It could be that the "final result" was the same, but the intentionality behind it was waaay stronger for VW.

Well, all of the companies using Bosch EDC 16 & 17 control systems were doing effectively the same thing. My understanding is that Bosch includes facilities for detecting dyno use "for testing purposes" and that manufactures were using these flags in production cars. VW was apparently a lot more brazen and aggressive in triggering it. While Mercedes and FCA were a big more judicious about it.

I don't think BMW's case has made it through the court system yet though.

Re: Voltswagen of America

#543

Confirmed fake: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/30/volkswagens-name-change-of-u... "Media outlets ... reported it as news after it was confirmed by unnamed sources within the company, who apparently lied to several reporters."

But... they literally put it as a press release on their site with a date of today. Then again, VW knows a thing or two about faking reports

Re: Voltswagen of America

#544

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>seems way less pretentious Or you could help do your part in normalizing pronouncing things correctly instead of perpetuating the perception that it's somehow "pretentious".

They're speaking English. The correct pronunciation of a "V" is in fact to make the english "V" sound.

Nope. Proper nouns are to be pronounced in whatever way is dictated by the country of origin.

Also, no, English is not very reliable when it comes to spelling vs. pronunciation.

(Former diction teacher, here.)

Re: Voltswagen of America

#545
post #496
post #458

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My stance is that diesels should only be permitted if they satisfy the EPA 2008 diesel PM standards or better. No older engines should be permitted unless they are retrofitted to comply with the standard and pass regular state tests. We could have a "cash for clunkers" type program to incentivize them to be lawfully scrapped. I appreciate that you are as annoyed as the rest of us at the coal rollers. I think we need…

Destroying nearly-new trucks for emissions reasons is a pretty questionable use of funding (and, yes, a 12 year old truck is still quite new) - and you're not going to be able to get away with a token few thousand dollars to encourage people to scrap them. A decently maintained heavy road engine (tractor trailer) is a million+ mile motor, easily. A medium truck engine (think your typical toolbox work trucks, tow truc…

Of course just scrapping diesels on the road isn't the best/most efficient idea. We have the technology to do EV conversions, we just need to make that more cost effective. Volkswagon has talked about shipping a mass produced "crate" system that could fit into older VW vehicles' engine blocks. Though if we are talking *trucks* the big player that should be building an EV conversion kit yesterday is Ford, who still seem to act like EV is a passing fad they can just dip their toes in and not get serious about.

Re: Voltswagen of America

#546

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Americans are pronouncing it perfectly correctly as most of us speak English and not German.

The worst part of English orthography is adopting the writing conventions of literally every other language in the world and then expecting people to pronounce the words "correctly." If you want English speakers to pronounce something a certain way, it should be written use our spelling system. There's no point in shaming people for not knowing literally every language. But that's basically the system we have now.

Except that English does not have a "spelling system". At all. Even a passing glance at English would reveal that.

Re: Voltswagen of America

#547
post #541

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Americans are pronouncing it perfectly correctly as most of us speak English and not German.

Um, that doesn't make an incorrect pronunciation correct. That's not how anything works.

The point is that it is a correct pronunciation in English, as Volkswagen is also an English word.

Re: Voltswagen of America

#548
post #390

Earlier quoted context omitted.

'bother' me? No, not at all, the sounds are close enough I get the meaning, mostly from context. I am not sure why there should be an emotional factor here, as expecting everybody to conform to some pronunciation ideal they have no experience with is arrogant, to say the least.

Well you claimed that Americans are pronouncing it "perfectly correctly," and Germans might disagree. It's a German word which has been Americanized. The company mostly doesn't care, but there is a single correct pronunciation in their native language. Insisting you are correct mispronouncing a foreign word because the letters look a certain way is just hubris.

Americans are pronouncing the English word Volkswagen perfectly correctly yes. BECAUSE THEY ARE SPEAKING ENGLISH

Re: Voltswagen of America

#549

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has been adopted to a degree. Just like you don't need to say Paris as "Pari" in an imitation of the French pronunciation (which would probably sound rather affected and twee in English if you did) Anyway, let's hope they make reliable electric vehicles (as their combustion engine cars have traditionally been) otherwise people may render it as Faultswagen

faultswagen.com is unregistered; anyone? https://www.namecheap.com/domains/registration/results/?doma...

[deleted]

Re: Voltswagen of America

#550
This is a dumb name.

Two theories:

1. Some young VP convinced the company to do it; that person will only last a couple years before they move on. The company will change its name back shortly.

2. It’s an April fools joke that accidentally got published too early.

Post reply on HN