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Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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This is an incredibly sort timeframe to expect someone to be able to migrate off AWS. If there infrastructure is docker, or K8 than they can move quickly, but if they are tied into more than a couple of AWS specific services like Route 53 or Lambda then a migration is a big ask.

Based on reading the LinkedIn of the Parler execs, their code is node.js and some Go with Cassandra and Postgres for storage and RabbitMQ for queuing. That sounds like it will run anywhere they can rent a pile of Linux boxes.

They've tried to avoid lock-in, specifically mentioning avoiding any Google technologies in their mobile apps. However, they are using Route53 for DNS, Cloudfront as a CDN, and ALB for load balancing, so there are a few commodity services they'll need to swap out.

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AWS is screwing itself. No one will every trust AWS ever again. Why would any legitimate business use AWS ever again? Amazon doesn't like your product, they will shut off your site. This is the fucking end of cloud computing.

On August 16th, 2017, Cloudflare terminated the account of Daily Stormer. Today Cloudflare is doing better than ever.

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I'm curious to see how far things have gone. Does anyone here believe that an employer should be able to fire an employee for supporting Trump?

Political affiliation or beliefs are not a protected class in the US, so yes you can very much get fired for that without recourse.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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First: good riddance. Let the neo-Nazis, fascists, and white supremacists make do with Stormfront or 4chan.

Second: regardless of your politics/beliefs, this is what people get for not self-hosting.

1. Putting your site on AWS is not self-hosting.

2. Putting your site on Github Pages is not self-hosting.

3. Putting your site on Cloudflare is not self-hosting.

4. Putting your site on shared hosting or a VPS like Dreamhost, DigitalOcean, Linode, or Vultr is not self-hosting.

Self-hosting means you pay for your own pipe, your own hardware, and your own space in which to keep the hardware, whether it's on your own premises or in a co-location facility owned by individuals sympathetic to your views.

Corporations don't exist to provide you with a platform for your views, especially if they're as repugnant as those frequently aired on sites like Parler. They exist to make a profit for their owners/stockholders, and if you hamper that mission they will throw you under a bus.

Whether this is right or wrong is irrelevant; corporations will do as they please unless the state governments that issue their charters (which in the US is mostly Delaware) start revoking them and dissolving corporations that abuse their power.

People keep forgetting that "the cloud" is just somebody else's computer, and that somebody else is NOT your friend or ally.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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It seems like Parler gives law enforcement an easy way to track these folks and see what they’re planning. Is it really a good idea to send them underground? I’m also reading a lot about how you can’t incite violence. We should all be able to agree on that. What concerns me is that many used Facebook/Twitter over the summer to plan riots, bombing of federal buildings and even seceding from the USA in Seattle. The pro…

Beautifully put... would love someone to respond to this in a meaningful way :-) Thanks for asking.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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I’ve said it elsewhere, but can we now expect big tech companies to be more active in determining who they “platform?”

The Chinese government uses Twitter to spread horrific propaganda. Concentration camps are portrayed as vocational schools/feminist awareness centers.

If Big Tech decided to crack down in White supremecy, while turning the other way to the policies of the PRC, or the situation in Palestine, they’re just virtue signaling.

Bedsides, I’m sure if Parler really wants to, they can find a Russian server to host them.

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