I have no issues with this. Cable networks have been spouting false information for several years now, hurting the very foundations of democracy. Banning obvious and pernicious lies from a platform is, in fact, a step forward.
YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud
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Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud
#542There has been election fraud. To the extent it was organized has yet to be determined, I'm very skeptical of conspiracy. The fact YouTube will delete complaints, and evidence is very scary. This should scare everyone.
How do we know it isn't true if they decided what the truth is?
You might agree with Google, on this issue, but wait until they have interest in something that kills people, and Google decides to take down evidence to persuade the public.
Apple does this crap all of the time.
Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud
#543I don't like what YouTube is doing. But... What is going on in the US just now is unprecedented in modern Western democracies - we've reached "peak fake news" in the USA. Mainstream news networks like Fox have talking heads spouting venomous lies that are demonstrably and trivially proven as such. The POTUS is lying on an hourly basis (many of those lies just brazenly , ridiculously false), and has millions of people…
Do you yourself have first hand knowledge that what is being said are lies, or are you relying on a 3rd party media source to determine what's real and what isn't? > he's personally profiting hugely, while brainwashing them and whipping them up into frenzy Who's being whipped up into a frenzy, how do you know this to be true? Did you see it on... the news? Members of which political party recently participated in wid…
I’m not aware of any party requirements to have participated in the summer protests. I would guess that most of them were democrats, or greens, or socialists, but I didn’t see anything partisan about them.
Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud
#544We are very fortunate to have the algorithms, employees & management of Youtube/Google watching out for us. We're not intelligent enough to view a video and decide for ourselves what is fact v. propaganda v. entertainment. Hopefully some day we will have the same protections the CCP gives its people with even more content moderation. Thank you Google - you're the nanny the American people and the world always hoped f…
Once again a thread about censorship invites comments that ignore the nuance of the situation. Having companies dictate what information is widely accessible is dangerous for democracy. Having the sitting president make completely baseless claims in an effort to delegitimize the results of an election because it didn’t go his way is also dangerous for democracy. That’s what we call a tricky situation. We don’t have a…
Do you pledge this to be nuanced because it currently favors your political view maybe?
Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud
#545"Don't be evil" - Google, 1999 - Present [1]
Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud
#546I don't like what YouTube is doing. But... What is going on in the US just now is unprecedented in modern Western democracies - we've reached "peak fake news" in the USA. Mainstream news networks like Fox have talking heads spouting venomous lies that are demonstrably and trivially proven as such. The POTUS is lying on an hourly basis (many of those lies just brazenly , ridiculously false), and has millions of people…
The POTUS has made claims that need to be thought about rationally. Does the tech world really think that electronic voting is reliable when done the way Dominion did it? Is there is a rational explanation when votes jump from one candidate to another on live public TV? Are there too many acceptable mail in votes to make sense? Etc. The conclusion for someone who does the research may be that things are OK, that all…
> ...think that electronic voting is reliable...
Given that there is a paper trail in virtually all cases, and that the manual counting of that paper trail almost perfectly matched the electronic version, the answer can only be "Yes!". There's zero evidence of fraud, and abundant affirmative evidence that the machines accurately and completely counted the ballots that were entered.
By all means, continue to have a paper record so we can verify afterwards, but the dominion systems worked very well.
Edit: The fact that this question is continuing to be asked, in spite of all of this mountain of easily available affirmative proof, is a shocking indictment of the general public. I wish people took the responsibility which comes with the right to free speech a little more seriously.
Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud
#547I don't like what YouTube is doing. But... What is going on in the US just now is unprecedented in modern Western democracies - we've reached "peak fake news" in the USA. Mainstream news networks like Fox have talking heads spouting venomous lies that are demonstrably and trivially proven as such. The POTUS is lying on an hourly basis (many of those lies just brazenly , ridiculously false), and has millions of people…
lol. you're brainwashed if you believe the lies of the legacy media. this election was stolen. there's so much evidence. video evidence, affidavits, forensic evidence of voting machines, proof of tens of thousands of underage people voting, and so much more. Pennsylvania: 1.8 million ballots mailed out, 2.5 million ballots received. Hello? Trump won and Biden stole it.
Case in point, should the HN mods ban this user for spreading deliberate disinformation?
Btw, 2 seconds of googling shows that PA sent out 3 million absentee ballots and received 2.5M.
Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud
#548Doesn't this just feed into people's fears about conspiracies? I can't understand why people are signing off on this. Let the Like/Dislike button do its job.
> Let the Like/Dislike button do its job. Community moderation has completely and totally failed. Giant, enormous lies are being told to half the population without barrier. People who want to believe in a completely fabricated story about election fraud have all their eyeballs can get. Fine. I get the free speech angle. But... who cares about free speech when democracy is dying in front of us? Free speech was suppos…
Millions of people believe the election was rigged in the US. This is a total failure of building trust in elections, regardless weather its true or not.
I personally believe in "Trust but Verify". There is no way to verify this election. The process is made impossible, because signature check was not done on mail in ballots in any meaningful way. And has not been done now either in any of the recounts. We only know that currently 0.02% of ballots were rejected vs 6% previous elections.
To my common sense, this election could have been spammed with mail in ballots, and almost everything accepted. No meaningful signature match was performed, when only 0.02% of ballots were rejected.
Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud
#549The conclusion o draw from this is not YouTube / Google are bad for censoring, but near monopolies are bad, especially in the field of news and information delivery. And the solution is to use existing antitrust law to break up the monopolies and require them to support a common api, like Open Social.
Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud
#550I don't like what YouTube is doing. But... What is going on in the US just now is unprecedented in modern Western democracies - we've reached "peak fake news" in the USA. Mainstream news networks like Fox have talking heads spouting venomous lies that are demonstrably and trivially proven as such. The POTUS is lying on an hourly basis (many of those lies just brazenly , ridiculously false), and has millions of people…
lol. you're brainwashed if you believe the lies of the legacy media. this election was stolen. there's so much evidence. video evidence, affidavits, forensic evidence of voting machines, proof of tens of thousands of underage people voting, and so much more. Pennsylvania: 1.8 million ballots mailed out, 2.5 million ballots received. Hello? Trump won and Biden stole it.
Absolutely. Delusional.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9787630...
I never truly understood how demagogues gained power until this election. I see history in a completely different light now. No matter what you say to these people, they'll either ignore it, or find some other lie to hang their hat on. If you point out the facts, they'll deny the source, or say, "How do YOU know? Did YOU count all the votes?" or some other nonsense.
What's the cure for this? (Not asking OP, he's one of the zombie hoards. He'll go to his deathbed convinced of his own delusions.) We used to just ignore these types of stubborn, brain washed conspiracy theory wackos, but now there's tens of millions of them.
It's truly frightening.