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Re: Would you be willing to fund a Linux port to Apple Silicon?

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> The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this. > In order for freedoms 1 and 3 (the freedom to make changes and the freedom to publish the changed versions) to be meaningful, you need to have access to the source code of the program. Therefore, accessibility of source code is a necessary condition for…

Right, but, like, that’s just your opinion man. FOSS means you get the source code, everything else is gravy.

Source "in the preferred form for making modifications". IMO that means a VCS checkout rather than a code dump.

Re: Would you be willing to fund a Linux port to Apple Silicon?

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Right, but, like, that’s just your opinion man. FOSS means you get the source code, everything else is gravy.

Source "in the preferred form for making modifications". IMO that means a VCS checkout rather than a code dump.

A code dump is nothing remotely like obfuscated source code. They run competitions for obfuscated source code, take a look and compare.

Seriously, at this point I think you have to be just defending a position that you know is wrong but since you originally stated it, you’re not backing down. If not then let’s just agree to disagree...

Re: Would you be willing to fund a Linux port to Apple Silicon?

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>I mean Ive got to think you must know both those points are true. Hardware relating Comments on HN has always been fairly low quality to say the least, comparatively speaking to many other subjects. But Apple M1 sort of brings the worst out of it. My current counting right now over 10K comment suggest most have very limited understanding of Hardware tech, little on Hardware business, and quite literally zero on supp…

FWIW, it is because we read articles like this one, and because we are constantly told that Apple has exclusive deals for good touch screens from Samsung (who happens to also make the one other good line of competing phones, and which you explicitly stated was a place where people are wrong). https://thenextweb.com/apple/2011/08/21/apple-locks-its-riva... > How Apple locks its rivals out of the tablet market with exc…

I guess I will write a long blog post when I have time. But that article is from 2011. So that perspective were correct at the time but no longer relevant now.

Example when the first iPad using NAND launched, Apple secured nearly 60% of the world's total NAND production capacity. That was not a monopoly or exclusive deal. It was out of necessity. Securing a stable supply of critical component is the norm is any industry. It is up to the manufacture to decide whether they should expand their capacity to meet demand ( from others ).

In again NAND example, since the cost of building a new fab and amortisation time is far too long, most would delay any Capex spending until it is absolutely necessary. With high demand and fixed supply, NAND and DRAM price were sky high, and Samsung managed to be the most profitable company for 3 quarters in 2017, only to be overtaken by Apple. The profits then fasten the capacity increase cycle because the risk are now comparatively lower.

Smaller players who do not have the volume, forecast and commitment will always be left at the will of their manufacturing partners. But partners / vendors will always complain these players dont give ( accurate ) forecast. Capacity planning in itself is a profession. And these are common, if not the norm across all Manufacturing industries, from Food, Metal, Raw Mats or even Transport like DHL where they have Data Scientist working on Flight Space ( Their unit of capacity ).

Re: Would you be willing to fund a Linux port to Apple Silicon?

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Which is what I've done when installing Linux. Am I losing performance? Power efficiency? Features? It also makes dual booting trickier if you don't plan it beforehand. It frustrates me that there's not that many reviews that cover this kind of stuff, so it's hard to avoid silliness like this when making a substantial purchase like a laptop.

> Which is what I've done when installing Linux. Am I losing performance? Power efficiency? Features? From what I read a year ago before doing this, you don't lose much, and software-based RAID (if you go for that sort of thing) in GNU/Linux is just as efficient/reliable, and maybe more so. And anyway, if you only have one HDD/SSD, there is no point in RAID. > It also makes dual booting trickier if you don't plan it…

> And anyway, if you only have one HDD/SSD, there is no point in RAID.

Obviously. But why did they care to equip this laptop with the RAID by default?

Re: Would you be willing to fund a Linux port to Apple Silicon?

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UNIX with good taste and a decent UI.

That makes up for Apple being Apple?

Don’t shift the goalposts. You can ask what makes [product] good, or what excuses [company]’s actions, but it’s not the same question.

Re: Would you be willing to fund a Linux port to Apple Silicon?

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That makes up for Apple being Apple?

Don’t shift the goalposts. You can ask what makes [product] good, or what excuses [company]’s actions, but it’s not the same question.

As an example: I find Amazon to be one of the most blatantly evil large consumer facing tech companies; I hate giving them money and avoid it as much as I can often at my own expense; their consumer facing products are wildly good for most common usage scenarios and I understand why they’re successful even though I wish they weren’t.

Re: Would you be willing to fund a Linux port to Apple Silicon?

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> Which is what I've done when installing Linux. Am I losing performance? Power efficiency? Features? From what I read a year ago before doing this, you don't lose much, and software-based RAID (if you go for that sort of thing) in GNU/Linux is just as efficient/reliable, and maybe more so. And anyway, if you only have one HDD/SSD, there is no point in RAID. > It also makes dual booting trickier if you don't plan it…

> And anyway, if you only have one HDD/SSD, there is no point in RAID. Obviously. But why did they care to equip this laptop with the RAID by default?

Apparently, Intel's RST is not just RAID, but it's also supposed to help when a laptop is equipped with two storage devices, one small and fast (SSD) and another big but slower (HDD): https://superuser.com/a/1578326

IIRC there were Dell XPS models like that in the lower price segment. Never tried one personally.

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