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Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by oops » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 6:13 PM UTC

andrepd wrote: post #214

I was itching for this announcement, not because I want to buy an iPhone, but because this will finally mean other manufacturers will start to make compact phones. It drives me up the wall that I simply cannot find a reasonably competent phone (i.e. mid/upper range from the past 4 years) which is not absolutely fucking huge. It's insane that the "phablet" standard from ~5 years ago is now not even the new standard, b…

The Palm Phone[1] looks pretty cool and certainly ticks the compact box. It's almost enough to make me consider Android but I'll probably just keep using old SE until it dies.

1: https://palm.com/products/palm-unlocked

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by novok » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 6:13 PM UTC

They could of done so much more than slap an A13 into an iPhone 8. I guess it was about that the last time although, throwing a newer processor into an iPhone 5.

At the very least they could of done touch ID on the back and make it a hole punch display with a smaller form factor, but that would probably have battery issues from the smaller footprint.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by rorykoehler » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 6:13 PM UTC

arkj wrote: post #535

ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

>>but not sure that'll be possible (maybe I can borrow somebody's iPhone 8). My SE broke recently and I had to switch to iPhone 8 (They stopped selling SE by then in India). I am able to manage but the form factor is no where as comfortable as the old SE. >> Price point is, admittedly, fantastic True for the developed nations but still on the higher side for India and South East Asia. If they could price it at 299 in…

My impression of India was that up could either easily afford the iphone or you were in the market for a budget phone. Not much middle market. Is that a correct assumption?

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by xenonite » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 6:13 PM UTC

plainOldText wrote: post #517

xenonite wrote: post #486

How come that the "white" variant is not "white" on the front side? Like it has always been the case until iPhone 8? This is a huge disappointment for me. The big reason to have white screen borders is to reduce contrast to light screen backgrounds, which is so much easier on the eyes when reading. And also, white front side is a design classic. Its removal is even a reason for me not to buy the new SE2.

I was wondering the same thing. I’m glad I’m not the only one. Plus, the white front would have made it look much more elegant IMO.

I am also glad to hear that. Yes, I totally agree that white is much more elegant.

Maybe this outcome is an effect of Johnathan Ive's departure?

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by dakiol » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 6:14 PM UTC

I don't get it. It's over 520 USD in Germany (479 EUR). Is this supposed to be an SE edition?

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by 1980phipsi » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 6:14 PM UTC

hosh wrote: post #409

cactus2093 wrote: post #376

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know a few people that still have the SE, and for all of them it was mainly about the size. That and a belief that they didn't want to be glued to their phone all the time. So the benefit was a combination of the smaller size being more ergonomic, plus the fact that less content fit on the screen was actually a pro for them because the extra friction encourages wasting less time on it. It does seem weird that inste…

The 5S and the SE for me was mainly about being minimalist. Size was a big part of it, but it was also that the SE was a really good design that should last for years. Up until this announcement, I was going to have the battery replaced on the SE. The bigger issue is if Apple will continue to support the 1st gen SE with iOS. My wife prefer the bigger phones. She has aphantasia. I don't, and often hold visualizations…

Meh, I have aphantasia and an SE...

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by masklinn » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 6:14 PM UTC

jrochkind1 wrote: post #440

cactus2093 wrote: post #376

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know a few people that still have the SE, and for all of them it was mainly about the size. That and a belief that they didn't want to be glued to their phone all the time. So the benefit was a combination of the smaller size being more ergonomic, plus the fact that less content fit on the screen was actually a pro for them because the extra friction encourages wasting less time on it. It does seem weird that inste…

Hm, at 4.7" this might be a bit bigger than the original SE (4.0" I think?), but I think it's still among the smallest phone on the market, no? Are there even any smaller?

It's apparently the format of the 6~8 (which incidentally is likely why the 8/8+ was discontinued at the same time).

So it's quite a bit bigger than the original SE, though the biggest issue I had with the design (on a 6S anyway) was that the metal back and rounded edge made it much slippier than the old 4/5/SE design, much harder to hold securely.

Anyway the SE/2016 was 123.8mm x 58.6mm x 7.6mm and 114g with a 4" display, the 8 was 138.4mm x 67.3mm x 7.3mm and 148g with a 4.7" display.

Significantly heavier (+30%), noticeably wider (+12%) and taller (+15%) and about the same depth (-4%).

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 6:14 PM UTC

sn_master wrote: post #112

I use Pixel 4, and I absolutely hate not having a fingerprint sensor. Cons: * At night it doesn't work, because I am laying on the bed and half my face is covered. * It doesn't work when I am not wearing my glasses. Annoying when I have just woken up or going to bed and want to check a quick notification. * Sometimes it unlocks by itself even if I don't want it to. For the headphone jack, I got a cheap USB-C ones and…

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Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by alexellisuk » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 6:14 PM UTC

ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

I had an iPhone 8 and Pixel 2 for a while. Both fit well for average-sized hands and I can barely type on my wife's iPhone SE. I'd consider this one for her but the lack of headphone jack is a problem.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by mavidser » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 6:15 PM UTC

I am apparently in the minority here who prefers faceID, mostly because how transparent it is UX-wise. I don't have to do an additional 'Authenticate' press when opening protected apps, instead I pass through the security while the app loading animation completes.

Though, it has been hell now with using face masks for the past few weeks, where I have to spend 5 seconds on every auth-screen, where it tries faceID twice and then gives the option of PIN authentication.