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People in Ohio think the virus is a liberal conspiracy.
Please don't take HN threads into regional or political flamewar.
That was an observation of fact.
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The UK model also happens to be the Germany model: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51835856 . The UK are focused on minimising deaths, by avoiding COVID-19 striking during next winter, when the NHS is at peak load due to winter flu. Instead, they will guide the first strike towards summer (NHS's least load), and impose measures to protect at-risk folk during that time.
> The UK model also happens to be the Germany model Eh ? Germany is on lock down right now, we'll be at Italy's level by the end of the week imho. UK says: "we're all going to get sick so let's not do anything." DE says: "we're all going to get sick so let's spread it over a long time as to not overwhelm our health system." That's a huge difference.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamJKucharski/status/12388215155... is a UK modeller explaining that there has been a misreporting of UK's plan: UK aims to flatten the curve. Herd immunity "is a tragic consequence of having a virus that - based on current evidence - is unlikely to be fully controllable in long term in the UK."
It's a bit longer, but here's the Chief Medical Officer talking about the UK's response. https://youtu.be/IfJcwDaZrsA
UK is progressively adding lockdown too, per the response's plan.
Re: Washington governor announces shutdown of restaurants, bars
#543Earlier quoted context omitted.
The UK model also happens to be the Germany model: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51835856 . The UK are focused on minimising deaths, by avoiding COVID-19 striking during next winter, when the NHS is at peak load due to winter flu. Instead, they will guide the first strike towards summer (NHS's least load), and impose measures to protect at-risk folk during that time.
I'm not sure what the the "UK model" is, but schools don't seem to be closed there (are here in Germany) and I can't find good info about mass events being banned. The best term I found for Germany's policy is "flattening the curve", while UK news seem to describe theirs as "herd immunity". Sure, there will be overlap in policy, but wouldn't call it the same model.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamJKucharski/status/12388215155... is a UK modeller explaining that there has been a misreporting of UK's plan: UK aims to flatten the curve and reduce deaths. Herd immunity "is a tragic consequence of having a virus that - based on current evidence - is unlikely to be fully controllable in long term in the UK."
It's a bit longer, but here's the Chief Medical Officer talking about the UK's response. https://youtu.be/IfJcwDaZrsA
UK is progressively adding lockdown too, per the response's plan.
Re: Washington governor announces shutdown of restaurants, bars
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I'm a little surprised that commercial landlords of businesses that are affected aren't stepping up to offer rent concessions. Yes, I get they don't want to take a hit -- but they're generally in much better positions to do so than restaurants and cafés that run on less than 5% profit margins during good times. (And, yes, I'm sure the more leftist and anti-capitalist out there will say "but are you really surprised?,…
It is your government's responsibility, local or federal I don't mind. This is why you pay taxes, to provide services to your citizens, one of which is disaster preparedness. I wouldn't be quick to put the burden onto businesses. If such a thing were mandated you would pretty quickly bankrupt a bunch of landlords who were not in the position to take it, and you would shift a bunch of property ownership to the banks,…
I don't disagree with that, to be clear -- my thought is more that everyone is in this together. There's a lot of actions only a government can practically take, and others they would probably do better than private actors even if private actors could also do it. (Health insurance being a prime example.) But none of that precludes a landlord from giving businesses (and, of course, individuals and families) a rent break without waiting for the government to compel them to do so.
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There is nothing complicated about putting food in a delivery box and driving it somewhere.
How many meals should you deliver in one delivery? In what order? Where can the food be in the car? (Is it ok to put it on the floor?) How long can the food be allowed to get cold before it's no longer ok to deliver? What are you expected to cover, insurance wise, for your delivery drivers? How is your business prepared if your delivery driver has an accident? How much do you need to contribute to vehicle maintenance…
As much as you want, whatever order makes sense, anywhere, yes, FDA says 2 hours in the danger zone, google the rest or get a legalzoom consultation if you're unsure.
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Hurricane prep helps with lots of emergency scenarios, it seems.
I don't think this is hurricane prep. I was in Miami for Andrew. Hurricanes knock out power for weeks. Kids wouldn't be able to learn from home during that. I can't really think of another scenario where kids are stuck at home while infrastructure is all fine other than the one we currently find ourselves in.
I agree, but if you are prepped for a hurricane, you should be ok in this scenario.
We still have water, sewer, power, and internet.
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AFAIK, covid-19 is basically a "slightly worse flu". Most people are not at risk of dying and in fact most people don't even need to go to the hospital to recover. Surely there has to be a balance between protecting the vulnerable at the cost of ruining the economy and protecting the economy at the cost of ruining the vulnerable. How about instead of shutting down planet earth we advise people over the age of 60 to s…
If you are ignorant of the virus, why talk about it like this? 50% of the patients in ICU are under 50, and it causes permanent damage to your lungs and organs. If you don't take paranoid drastic measures, many millions will die. If you do take paranoid drastic measures, lives will be saved, and then everyone will call you crazy for taking those measures because it ended up not that bad. Just like people think Y2K wa…
> Just like people think Y2K was an overblown non-issue. Because it was fixed by millions of people working hard.
Y2K was an actual issue? I thought it was purely artificial issue created by computer layman. Year 2038 is an actual issue and there's really not much fuss about it, for many years.
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You just started your comment by listing details of your living situation, however.
The polite response to "I'm not comfortable discussing in more detail" is "OK, sounds good."
I wasn't previously part of the discussion, so it would be strange for me to post that.
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Let them go bankrupt or have the banks suspend mortgages. Not having a homeless crisis is far more important than protecting rentiers. Just throw them under the bus. They are not actually doing anything anyhow.
I have property tax. It's not just mortgages. And there's all sorts of compliance issues even in a closed building.
So put some aside like a real business, for unexpected contingencies.