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New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

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Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

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post #81

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But then you'll find yourself in a situation where you could possibly be lying to the customs officers.

Out of curiosity: Is lying to customs officers illegal in New Zealand? I've lied to a great many people, including police officers on duty. They can't take me in if I wish them "a good day", or can they?

Entering the US, an honest slip-up can count as a lie and see you barred indefinitely.

Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

#542
post #349

This happened to me driving from the US into Canada with my significant other on a short vacation. After some routine questioning, the agent asked for our phones and passwords. Naturally, I hesitated and wanted to know why he needed to go through our phones. He didn't give a reason, but said if I refuse they'd hold us until their forensics team cracks the phone password anyway. I wanted to make a bigger deal about it…

I drove from Detroit to Toronto via Windsor, and was subjected to a vehicle search and questioning. I pulled up my hotel reservation at the agents' request, and he snatched my phone out of my hands and started going through my emails. He couldn't wrap his head around why anyone would want to take a roadtrip to toronto for an extended weekend, other than to run drugs. I've also been interrogated when flying into Canad…

> he snatched my phone out of my hands and started going through my emails

Is it not illegal - the "snatching" part?

Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

#543
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This is an important issue cryptographers and security minded people often overlook: the strongest cryptography is irrelevant if it opens you to such social harassment. What we need is practical cryptography. I have found practical success by booting from an encrypted Linux partition that has absolutely nothing relevant on it, with a weak password I can always enter when requested by big guys with guns. Unbeknown to…

> cryptsetup -o 100000000 create boot /dev/sdc3

Be sure that doesn't get into your .bash_history

Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

#544

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This story doesn't sound beleivable. As soon as the agent starts attempting commands, they'd see it's not DOS.

But they saw it was a working computer. Airline security don't care what operating system your computer runs, they care if the laptop has been hollowed out and filled with C4.

Of course these days you could have a Raspberry Pi in a corner of the laptop case and the rest of it filled with whatever contraband, and still present a "working" computer to the security screener.

Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

#545

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I'm well aware none of those are digital. That was exactly the point, to provide reasons outside the scope of the current conversation, since it's clearly being debated in this thread. I don't think you can really debate the above reasons therefore there is absolutely a need to search you as a person and your belongings when crossing a border. As to your first statement, ignoring how disingenuous it is, if those stan…

> As to your first statement, ignoring how disingenuous it is, if those standards did have a reasonable justification for applying them to inter-regional travel the fact that we do not apply those policies to inter-regional travel does not negate the justification for applying those policies on the international border. It's not binary. So what is that justifying difference that you seem to think exists?

National sovereignty, which historically simplifies to war-time allegiance. This is a common classification for governments of nation-states imposing travel restrictions. Are you asking if it's justified?

Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

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post #494
post #446

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There is a risk of them looking at the raw data of the drive and asking what all the random data at the end of it is. The beatings will continue until you decrypt it. Hopefully you can and it's not actually just random data...

The outer volume is itself encrypted so if you correctly initialized it as recommended, the raw disk should be full of random bits. When read from within the encrypted outer volume, these decrypt to random data as well, so there should be no way to detect the inner volume, either by looking at the raw disk sectors or at the decrypted outer volume sectors. Most importantly, you have the plausible deniability that the…

TrueCrypt/VeraCrypt can do this for you with the intention that the existence of a hidden partition is plausibly deniable unless the correct key is provided. The only downside to this is gross inefficiency, you may only be able to get 20GB useful space out of a 500GB disc.

Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

#547

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Now I want to go to Canada repeatedly just to get them to try to decrypt my phone. "You know, I don't recall the darn password. I'll just go have a seat while you do your thing." I'd be interested to know if they could!

It might be fun to include some variety . Hotel reservations all stored on Minidisc. Family photos on zip drives.

Make sure the zip disk has the click of death.

Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

#548

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But they saw it was a working computer. Airline security don't care what operating system your computer runs, they care if the laptop has been hollowed out and filled with C4.

Of course these days you could have a Raspberry Pi in a corner of the laptop case and the rest of it filled with whatever contraband, and still present a "working" computer to the security screener.

Nowadays your laptop would go through an X-ray machine with improved explosives detection.

Re: New Zealand travellers refusing digital search now face $5k Customs fine

#550

This happened to me driving from the US into Canada with my significant other on a short vacation. After some routine questioning, the agent asked for our phones and passwords. Naturally, I hesitated and wanted to know why he needed to go through our phones. He didn't give a reason, but said if I refuse they'd hold us until their forensics team cracks the phone password anyway. I wanted to make a bigger deal about it…

This would cause me to turn around at the border and cancel my reservations. I won’t be going to New Zealand either. And yes, I am aware the USA treats incoming visitors just as badly.
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