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Re: Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks

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E3 -- Embrace, Extend, Extinguish. Stems from at least the 1990's. The MS behavior as opposed to the term can be argued to pre-date that decade. I'll just remind people who may think I'm being old, crotchety, and living in the past, that this has been a repeated pattern of theirs that has resurfaced so often and reliably as to become considered by many to be a core component of MS culture. Repeated including in the f…

Almost nobody who even worked at Microsoft in 1996 still actually works at Microsoft. You are bringing up something said in one meeting from when floppy disks were still pretty important to the computing world. I can't fathom a single statement from 1996 about a computer company that is still accurate today, and EEE falls into that category as well.

But with the latest news that MS is looking at buying GitHub demonstrates nothing has changed at MS.

Instead of helping and pushing the industry forward like Google does instead we have them hurting the industry. They buy GitHub and we will have a mess as FB, Google and the others that contribute to the greater good of the industry will have to go else where and we have a fragmentation mess. Google gave us map/reduce and K8s and so many incredible papers and a big one is VP8 and VP9 stopping the mpegla from trying to extort ridiculous license fees.

Or finding all the big security vulnerabilities like Shellshock, meltdown, Cloudbleed, Heartbleed Spectre and so many more and sharing and helping the entire industry.

I swear MS just does not want us to have nice things.

Re: Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks

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Seems like the view here is pretty negative. I feel like most people here haven't worked with Microsoft dev products recently. They're getting better. I guess the crowd here isn't typically in the .NET world.

Particularly with how they interact on GitHub now, it's quite impressive. I've reported issues for docs.microsoft.com, participated in discussions on Visual Basic development, etc. and while there's still definitely that corporate veil to some degree, they're extremely responsive, they're very active in responding to requests and discussing fixes. I generally now hope that whatever Microsoft thing I'm dealing with so…

MS buying GitHub will be one of the worse things to happen to the industry in a long time. But should end all discussion that MS has changed.

FB, Google and the other big tech companies that contribute so much will have to go elsewhere and we will have a fragmentation mess.

I swear MS just does not want us to have nice things.

Re: Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks

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To be fair they haven't screwed up LinkedIn. I think they will let GitHub grow with their resources.

IMO that's because LinkedIn wasn't a great product to begin with. It's just the stickiest app of all time. Something something network effects.

> IMO that's because LinkedIn wasn't a great product to begin with.

Linkedin is way way better than other job sites. For instance, Glassdoor doesn't even support basic keyword search. If you happen to track job ads for C programmers then you'd get all ads which may have a C character somewhere in their text, and forget abou searching for C++ because Glassdoor doesn't recognize the plus character. With linkedin at least basic keyword searches do work.

Re: Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks

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There's no standard, of course, but [shameless plug] I've recently built SIT ( https://sit.fyi ) -- a tool that allows to collaborate on information in a decentralized, "true serverless" manner. Its first application is (duh!) issue tracking and it has been operational since almost day zero and SIT itself is using it. There's even a GitHub -> SIT import tool (pre-release) Now, what's also great (did I mention "shamel…

Good to know, thank you very much for the link! I've just been thinking: If one manages issues within a separate git repo -- couldn't we also store pull requests this way? I've always been very impressed by how good `git diff` and `git apply` work together, so theoretically, one should just be able to store the result of `git diff master...HEAD` in a new issue. The rest sounds like a tooling problem...

SIT's issue tracking module stores merge requests (aka patches) in SIT itself, therefore, they can all be stored in a git repo. Case in point: https://github.com/sit-fyi/sit/commit/e9f96b84edc560bb1b0c0f...

And this is how it looks in SIT: https://imgur.com/a/UCFmbsZ

Re: Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks

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GitHub clearly needs change of management. I havent seen much inmovation from them compared to GitLab. Microsoft is very strong on innovation since change of management.

Otoh, GitLanpb seems to have a messy code that is slow and taking much memory by slapping new stuff in frequently. (My impression from reading several comments on HN.)

Our team is actively working on improving the performance of GitLab.com. If you are referring to the merge requests, we're close to converting the merge request view to Vue, this should speed it up considerably.

Re: Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks

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Ballmer may have hurt microsoft, but they are still alive and well. The truth of it is that for a lot of things they do, there just isn't a competitor, nor will one arise soon. No one is replacing excel. As for windows -- there are a couple of niches where mac or linux could step in, but for most of them, that just isn't an option . Azure, typescript, vscode, ms office, office 365 are massively successful.

Sure, MS is alive and well and may outlast every other tech giant today (except probably Amazon). But that doesn't make Ballmer a good CEO.

I never said he was, just that he didn't sacrifice their future relevancy.

Re: Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks

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Or you know... just use gitlab.com...

I don't trust them to be compent at operating a large scale service after their insane meltdown february last year. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/01/gitlab_data_loss/

Yea totally, github is much more reliable.

https://blog.github.com/2010-11-15-today-s-outage/

Re: Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks

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I lived through the 90s, so I disagree. Anyone who feels perfectly comfortable with Microsoft's embracing of things they like is ignoring history. Maybe it's different this time, maybe it isn't.

I lived through the nineties as well, that doesn't mean I think everything that was amazing back then still is amazing today nor that everything that sucked back then still sucks today... I think the Microsoft of today is very different from the Microsoft of the nineties. Personally I'm not so much worried about Microsoft going back to Microsoft'95 but more about the fact that they, like most (all?) other big tech co…

Maybe they should rebrand themselves then.. A new name perhaps? :)

Re: Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks

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Because that turned out so well for Etsy.

What happened with Etsy? Their stock price has recovered to their IPO price. It did seem bad from an internal sense with layoffs etc.

Exactly. The spirit of what they were trying to do got killed.
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