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Jeff Bezos Is Now the World's Second Richest Person

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Re: Jeff Bezos Is Now the World's Second Richest Person

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Post by pfisch »

pas wrote: post #351
sumedh wrote: post #265

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If you believe in your idea get a loan from family, friends or banks or get a high paying job save money and then start your business. Starting and running a successful business is not easy which is why the rewards should go to the risk taker.

Someone working in a fulfillment center making ~40-50K each year won't be able to put together 100K capital to risk, even with family and friends. A large portion of HN readers are entrepreneurs, a lot of stories here tell the tale of failure, the burden and how to bear it. Yes it's not easy. And then there are people for the "not easy" is virtually impossible. Because they can't even start a business with any chance…

I bootstrapped my business with far less than 40k. It is definitely possible.

Re: Jeff Bezos Is Now the World's Second Richest Person

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Post by reddytowns »

vecinu wrote: post #525
reddytowns wrote: post #221

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/02/statuto...

You said "For people paying alimony and child support, you must work or go to jail". How does that play into rape? I don't understand.

> Were you forced into having that child in the first place?

The victim of a rape had to play child support. So, he was forced into having a child.

In general, some men are forced into having children by women who lie about taking birth control, or even by collecting semen by used condoms.

Re: Jeff Bezos Is Now the World's Second Richest Person

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Post by houst0n_ »

OJFord wrote: post #404
houst0n_ wrote: post #198

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Me too!! Nah its an error.. I don't know why it's made so often.. Maybe it was happening all the time and we only started noticing it? It irritates me far less than your/you're tho ;)

Your write, its an error made all to often. Many people are loser with spelling and grammer online than is you and me.

Argh, the pain! Have an upvote for making me cringe with just two sentences ;)

Re: Jeff Bezos Is Now the World's Second Richest Person

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Post by Scea91 »

acoard wrote: post #512
ohyes wrote: post #124

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Okay, but think of it this way. Bill Gates is worth 90 Billion, sure fine. What is the entire United States worth? GDP is 18 Trillion, expenditures are 4 trillion. So if you do something (admittedly kind of dumb), like take the GDP, subtract expenditures, let's pretend the earnings are 14 trillion? Valuing the US at 10x earnings, that would put it at a valuation of 140 trillion dollars. This is horribly incorrect, bu…

>The key thing in monarchial feudalism is that a single person is the state (Imagine a person worth 'only' 14 trillion dollars, he's got his own airforce, navy, army). This is entirely wrong. Other people have already commented on what feudalism is, but I wanted to provide a brief high-level history in case people were interested. So let's take the historical look! How did we go from ancient Rome, an imperial monarch…

Thank you, although I am quite familiar with history this was an extraordinary and simple analysis.

Re: Jeff Bezos Is Now the World's Second Richest Person

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Post by vecinu »

reddytowns wrote: post #542
vecinu wrote: post #525

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You said "For people paying alimony and child support, you must work or go to jail". How does that play into rape? I don't understand.

> Were you forced into having that child in the first place? The victim of a rape had to play child support. So, he was forced into having a child. In general, some men are forced into having children by women who lie about taking birth control, or even by collecting semen by used condoms.

That really wasn't clear to me from initially reading your post.

Of course in those situations I would hope that a jury could pardon the responsibility of alimony if there was rape involved and the child is not wanted.

Re: Jeff Bezos Is Now the World's Second Richest Person

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Post by memmcgee »

WalterBright wrote: post #506
memmcgee wrote: post #495

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Slavery ended in the US because we fought a war. And some forms of slavery do exist today. See prison labor for example.

The war didn't just happen. It didn't start out as a war to end slavery, either (that happened later, with the Emancipation Proclamation). As for prison labor, most of the cost of that is borne by the taxpayer, not the company using their labor. Keeping people prisoners in the US is very expensive.

Nothing you just said supports that slavery ended because of the "free market".

1) The Civil War was absolutely about slavery. Here's a professor at West Point talking about: https://youtu.be/pcy7qV-BGF4 (and PragerU is a very conservative source too).

2) The Emancipation Proclamation didn't end slavery. It ended it in states that were still rebelling. It took amendments to the Constitution to end slavery once and for all.

3) I agree that keeping prisoners is very expensive in the US and that most of that cost falls on the taxpayer. But it is very much still (essentially) slavery that the "free market" uses.

Re: Jeff Bezos Is Now the World's Second Richest Person

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Post by reddytowns »

vecinu wrote: post #545
reddytowns wrote: post #542

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> Were you forced into having that child in the first place? The victim of a rape had to play child support. So, he was forced into having a child. In general, some men are forced into having children by women who lie about taking birth control, or even by collecting semen by used condoms.

That really wasn't clear to me from initially reading your post. Of course in those situations I would hope that a jury could pardon the responsibility of alimony if there was rape involved and the child is not wanted.

There is no jury in family court, and as the article shows, child support wasn't waived. It's always justified by whatever is "in the best interest of the chilllldrrreeeenn"

Re: Jeff Bezos Is Now the World's Second Richest Person

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Post by vecinu »

reddytowns wrote: post #547
vecinu wrote: post #545

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That really wasn't clear to me from initially reading your post. Of course in those situations I would hope that a jury could pardon the responsibility of alimony if there was rape involved and the child is not wanted.

There is no jury in family court, and as the article shows, child support wasn't waived. It's always justified by whatever is "in the best interest of the chilllldrrreeeenn"

Yes, I see what you're saying. I was not aware this was the case.
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