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Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by Arnavion »

Someone1234 wrote: post #216
elipsey wrote: post #194

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This. Is the bootloader locked? So far I have mixed feelings about tablets. I like the "tablet" part but not the "it is cryptographically sercured from doing anything that might upset a government, corporation, or business model" part.

The Surface Pro 3 you could. Just had to disable Secure Boot for setup, boot from a USB stick, and after installation you could re-enable it (assuming you had a Linux distribution that supports Secure Boot signing). Obviously nobody outside of Microsoft will know if that remains true with the Surface Pro 4.

Secure Boot is always disable-able on x86. This has been true since Surface Pro 1.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by revelation »

Are we all just stuck in the bubble? I mean I love this thing for the specs, and Windows is a perfectly fine OS for development nowadays.

But I fail to see how this is helping Microsoft move forward. Capturing a chunk of the developer notebook market doesn't exactly move the needle for them, and they don't have the brand that allows Apple to sell MBPr as glorified Facebook machines to people that would otherwise balk at the price.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by wasyl »

akrolsmir wrote: post #432
gcb0 wrote: post #367

tell me the didn't remove true multitasking from windows (pro no less) faq got me very worried: """ Can I run multiple programs at the same time? A: Your Surface Book allows you to run up to two apps side by side on a screen at a time. You can schedule meetings on your calendar while you respond to email, or edit your PowerPoint deck while you listen to music. """ up to two ...what?!?!

Probably referring to the windowing system that makes it easy to snap two apps side by side, each on half the screen, while in Metro mode. You can probably still go to the "desktop" and multitask however you're used to.

> probably

I'd like it to be the case, but they may allow only metro apps, can't they?

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by scholia »

huac wrote: post #448
pcunite wrote: post #363

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Exactly this ... outside of ThinkPad, many Windows hardware options have been pretty embarrassing.

Yes, and while Thinkpad is excellent, it's not really a 'cool' option. The Surface Book's design (and price point) places it solidly as a competitor to Macs.

There is still a class of business users for whom the ThinkPad is cool (though I expect most of them regret the brand's decline in Lenovo's hands).

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by superuser2 »

caskance wrote: post #508
superuser2 wrote: post #473

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ThinkPad is pretty embarrassing; you're supporting a company that decided to MITM all its users traffic to inject advertising using factory-installed malware by trusting the same certificate, whose private key can be extracted from any Lenovo product and trivially used to MITM all the others. Lenovo needs to fail hard and fast. I recognize we'll probably never get those responsible into prison, but at least we can ma…

I support the company that makes the closest thing to a product I want. Reimaging the computer is a lot easier than installing your own pointing stick.

I don't think people understand the magnitude of this betrayal. When you buy a tool, it should obey you, and any deviations from that expectation should be disclosed upfront.

Imagine if you bought a car that detected when you were driving to a particular business, locked out steering, and instead drove you to a competitor that had "partnered" with the manufacturer. You totally own the car, and no one ever told you it had this "feature."

Imagine if you bought a gun that would refuse to fire when pointed at people who had purchased protection from the manufacturer. You don't find out about this feature until the guy invading your home has it.

Lenovo lied to your face. It sold laptops that claimed to navigate to the websites you entered in the URL bar, but instead displayed a version edited by Lenovo on behalf of its partners.

Normalizing this sort of thing is not okay and anyone buying Lenovo post-Superfish shares the moral responsibility when this is our future.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by makecheck »

rw2 wrote: post #538

The site is screwed up on MAC chrome: http://imgur.com/1hHpSiy How can you not check one of the most popular browsers on the internet.

On a page with the words "meticulously crafted" in large print. :)

I found that the glitches somehow corrected themselves; try resizing or reloading the page.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by Arnavion »

kuschku wrote: post #532
togusa wrote: post #444

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(iwr "http://Slashdot.org").Links | select href Nearest Unix equivalent please.

What does that even do? Sorry, I’m not familiar with Windows, but would love to provide a unix equivalent.

Fetches http://Slashdot.org (`iwr ...`), parses it as an HTML page and extracts all the anchor tags (`.Links`), and selects the href of each anchor tag (`select href`). Since this is the end of the command, the hrefs are returned and printed as an array of strings (so one href on each line).

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by mtgx »

superuser2 wrote: post #473
pcunite wrote: post #363

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly this ... outside of ThinkPad, many Windows hardware options have been pretty embarrassing.

ThinkPad is pretty embarrassing; you're supporting a company that decided to MITM all its users traffic to inject advertising using factory-installed malware by trusting the same certificate, whose private key can be extracted from any Lenovo product and trivially used to MITM all the others. Lenovo needs to fail hard and fast. I recognize we'll probably never get those responsible into prison, but at least we can ma…

And you think Microsoft didn't make its Surfacebook NSA-friendly, after all the Microsoft/NSA partnerships that have been reported so far?

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by smsx »

mozumder wrote: post #451
IkmoIkmo wrote: post #122

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Well the keyboard is in the stand, part of the battery is probably in the stand, all of the ports are in the stand, the dedicated GPU is in the stand, plus the stand actually lays flat while the screen is mostly upright so in any normal position the stand could only be a fraction of the screen and still not cause it to topple right? I guess the combination of all of that and perhaps a little extra counterweight if ne…

Very disingenuous of them to not include the full weight spec with the keyboard. my big worry with the MS hardware is its flimsy plasticky nature.

I believe the case is all magnesium.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by socksy »

Arnavion wrote: post #547
kuschku wrote: post #532

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What does that even do? Sorry, I’m not familiar with Windows, but would love to provide a unix equivalent.

Fetches http://Slashdot.org (`iwr ...`), parses it as an HTML page and extracts all the anchor tags (`.Links`), and selects the href of each anchor tag (`select href`). Since this is the end of the command, the hrefs are returned and printed as an array of strings (so one href on each line).

Including the href="" bit?
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