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Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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> then surely a model distilling another model is transformative and fair use. Yes it is, in the legal/copyright sense of fair use. That's why they ban it in their TOS. Which customers agree to when signing up for the service.

How long until books come with TOS, then?

I suspect first-sale doctrine doesn’t allow such.

However, if content is “licensed” instead of “sold” …

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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What a shame for Cursor. I found it a great tool - I actually liked Composer 2.5; but now being bought by SpaceX has for a while left a bad taste - and they keep pushing Grok and now GrokBot. I took the 50% discount instead of cancelling - but with this I'll likely not renew. So sad to watch them go from great to mediocre in such a short time.

Didn't Kamprad have some pretty strong ties to the Nazi party? Yet you have a bad taste in your mouth because Cursor gets bought by SpaceX! Virtue signaling in glass houses...

Sorry why are you mentioning Nazis? I didn't - I think the lady sockpuppet doth protest too much...

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Companies that didn't give away all their content for free to anyone have actually denied AI companies from training on all their data without paying a fee. Reddit, Associated Press, etc. For those who chose to give it all away, the ship has sailed, but they did choose to give it away for free to anyone so they can't complain that they succeeded.

At what point did the authors whose books showed up in the ai companies training data sets “give it all away” as you claim?

If the AI company bought their book, then they didn't give it all away. If the AI company obtained it indirectly like a library or 2nd hand, then the author has already been paid when he first sold it. In either case, he could have refused to be so liberal in sharing it if he didn't want it to be used like that, but he preferred to make some money instead.

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Yes - yours is just some optional text nobody reads or understands and is probably not legally required to adhere to. Theirs is a contract signed by their customer who they know did understand it.

Accessing the site may already mean that you agree to TOS. Also if you don’t see an explicit copyright terms on some text on the internet it doesn’t mean that it’s public domain. Same as checking a checkbox. Text being small and somewhere is not an excuse for a corporation to steal and sell other people’s work.

I know that text isn't public domain by default. I'm not talking about pirating IP. I'm talking about reading a website - which is a right that supersedes copyright - even using a computer that learns from it without storing a copy of it or distributing it.

No, you don't need to agree to TOS. I'm sure you never actually agree to them and you're not going to jail for it. If you believe that, I hope you never visited cnn.com, for example. Their Terms of Use is 11,000 words. Are you sure you have agreed to that when you clicked on some random news link? Are you sure you're happy to to surrender your legal defense and its expenses to them if they make a claim against you? You're OK that they have no liability for sharing your PII when they're not authorized to? You won't complain if you pay for a subscription and they don't give you access to the subscription content, don't refund your payment, and don't even tell you why?

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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It does seem like a lot of the valuations and infrastructure investments for these companies only make sense if each one assumes they will be the first and only one to invent superintelligence and that it will largely replace all knowledge work.

In which case the global economy is dead and there’s no one to buy their work?

i keep hearing this trope repeated ad nauseam cos people put no thought into it.

you only need people's money if you can't control their labor.

did a plantation owner in the 1600s need the money of his slaves ?

if you control a robot that can fight and take over land, enslave workers for things robots are bad at, harvest food, create buildings etc. what do you need other people for ? your entertainment? robots can do that too.

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