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Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Post by kube-system »

butlike wrote: post #127
TalkingCodeMonk wrote: post #35

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The fact that a dozen companies are allowed to buy up the entire global supply of core components, and increase the cost of living for every human on Earth, is full blown dystopian.

Yeah but if you think about it... you don't really _NEED_ any of this stuff. It's all "want" and not "need" deep down. We don't really need smartphones, we're just led to believe we can't live without them.

Technology and semiconductors are part of the supply chain for all modern necessities.

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Post by mark_l_watson »

I was expecting this. Glad I just upgraded my wife and myself in December.

One fix for this problem: Allow US companies to buy memory chips from China. I saw an article about a month ago, that if my memory is correct in this, said that China is ramping up high-end memory manufacturing.

Fix number two: my country (USA) should cease and desist with the craziness that is data center buildouts for AI.

Clearly ‘BIG MONEY’ always needs a new thing (cloud -> crypto -> AI) and the powerful get what they want.

If the US Congress acted to benefit regular people rather than special interests (both party's are corrupt, disbelieve that if you want to live in a fantasy land) then anti-dumping laws would be passed.

If all companies and individuals paid the real price for tokens, then we collectively would work more efficiently. As is, the filthy rich get even filthier, and regular people will get screwed.

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Post by nxc18 »

protoster wrote: post #435
rpgbr wrote: post #134

Devs reading this, please start making your apps less memory hungry. All the people running any computer appreciate.

Don't get your hopes up. The industry is well underway in migrating everything possible away from native apps to Electron.

People for some reason forget that for most election apps you can run it in a browser tab and avoid almost all of the overhead.

You can run slack, teams, outlook, Spotify, figma, and just about everything else in a browser tab; you get Linux support for free and you are only running one browser instance.

Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Post by rootusrootus »

ksec wrote: post #330
erxam wrote: post #10

Just yesterday I saw people saying that Apple wouldn't increase prices until the next refresh. And I agreed! So… holy shit. I think we're going to see even further price increases across the industry. There already were a ton, but it can always get worse, of course. Thank you, OpenAI. What would have we done without your attempts at monopolizing destroying the memory market.

And I said MacBook Neo was wrongly priced since the beginning. I don't even remember how many sticks I got from it. >Just yesterday I saw people saying that Apple wouldn't increase prices until the next refresh. That was from Gruber, a person who claimed USB-C was invented by Apple, AirPod was sold at a loss. Generally speaking understanding of Margins, Supply Chain, Manufacturing and Hardware Business manufacturing…

> a person who claimed USB-C was invented by Apple

That seems fair, I know plenty of people who think Apple only used USB-C because they were forced to. Lots of gut feelings out there.

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Post by jliptzin »

j1elo wrote: post #413
mysterydip wrote: post #304

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The computing power available today is such a double-edged sword. We can do so much more so much faster, but then we (including myself in this) waste so many cycles on abstractions and frameworks and layers of libraries to make our development jobs easier.

If the absurd memory prices might have some positive outcome, it will be consumers demanding that all their basic pack of apps are able to run on 16 and even 8 GB of RAM, by means of avoiding those that hog their machines. And consequently (hopefully), developers and their managers being incentivized by market forces to have a modicum of care for performance and not wasting bytes. Dreaming is free... All Electron dev…

RAM prices won’t stay like this forever. If demand keeps up, suppliers will just start producing more.

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Post by daishi55 »

mysterydip wrote: post #304
jacobgold wrote: post #274

Some unc perspective: I paid ~$6,000 in inflation-adjusted dollars for a computer in 1996. Today, I can get the same power in a $6 single board computer. A powerful modern mini PC starts at ~$600. However painful these price hikes are, and they are painful, it is worth remembering that computing has become incredibly ubiquitous and cheap.

The computing power available today is such a double-edged sword. We can do so much more so much faster, but then we (including myself in this) waste so many cycles on abstractions and frameworks and layers of libraries to make our development jobs easier.

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Post by tyre »

j1elo wrote: post #413
mysterydip wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The computing power available today is such a double-edged sword. We can do so much more so much faster, but then we (including myself in this) waste so many cycles on abstractions and frameworks and layers of libraries to make our development jobs easier.

If the absurd memory prices might have some positive outcome, it will be consumers demanding that all their basic pack of apps are able to run on 16 and even 8 GB of RAM, by means of avoiding those that hog their machines. And consequently (hopefully), developers and their managers being incentivized by market forces to have a modicum of care for performance and not wasting bytes. Dreaming is free... All Electron dev…

I don't think your average consumer has any idea how memory works, which apps are using it, or what a "reasonable" consumption is for a given task.

If things don't work, they will blame the computer. Developers will check and see that their electron app is only using 5GB of memory. They will test on 32GB memory M5 MBPs. Complaints to support will lead to recommendations to kill other apps.

What would make change is if MacOS killed processes above a certain limit, which obviously it would never (and should never) do.

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Post by bibimsz »

primaprashant wrote: post #465

These are the price changes mentioned in the article: Macs MacBook Neo: $699 (up from $599) 13-inch MacBook Air: $1,299 (up from $1,099) 15-inch MacBook Air: $1,499 (up from $1,299) M5 MacBook Pro: $1,999 (up from $1,699) M5 Pro MacBook Pro: $2,499 (up from $2,199) M5 Max MacBook Pro: $4,099 (up from $3,599) iMac: $1,499 (up from $1,299) M4 Max Mac Studio: $2,499 (up from $1,999) M3 Ultra Mac Studio: $5,299 (up from…

wow the almost 4 year old Apple TV 4k gets a 55% bump. The newer and better google tv streamer 4k is half the cost.

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Post by frollogaston »

daishi55 wrote: post #536
mysterydip wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The computing power available today is such a double-edged sword. We can do so much more so much faster, but then we (including myself in this) waste so many cycles on abstractions and frameworks and layers of libraries to make our development jobs easier.

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I'm fine with Electron, not so fine with basic websites being so bloated now that even a modern computer lags on them. Those were achievable in the past.

Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Post by DiabloD3 »

iAMkenough wrote: post #468
DiabloD3 wrote: post #199

This is a weird way for Apple to admit the Mac is dead.

If this is your interpretation of “Mac is dead” you might as well say “personal computers are dead.”

If it wasn't for Linux and open source, I very much could!
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