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Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra

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Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra

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Post by kombine »

pmontra wrote: post #435

Every time I read something like "completely redefines professional computing" I think that somebody in the marketing department didn't do a good enough job to disguise a sponsored content, or at the very least didn't review what the independent author wrote. Anyway, what I like of this machine is the 15" screen with a keyboard without a numberpad: the center of the body of the user can be aligned with the center of…

> Anyway, what I like of this machine is the 15" screen with a keyboard without a numberpad: the center of the body of the user can be aligned with the center of the screen.

ThinkPad P1 is the machine for you and you can run Linux on it.

Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra

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Post by msie »

kakacik wrote: post #491
sandreas wrote: post #395

While I somehow like the fact that Microsoft is trying to compete, their problem stays the same: There are too many people involved. - Nvidia - Mediatek - Microsoft - Windows team - Surface team - Marketing team - ... The main advantage of Apple is and will be, that they control the hardware AND the software / firmware completely and can make devices that feel completely cohesive. That's the reason Framework has an a…

Yeah, apple, they can be huge a-holes simply because they can. Your integration story is nice, but same company does this actively: If you have airpods pro (2nd gen in this case) that kept working fine with apple phone, but then you got tired/annoyed/disgusted by their OS and ecosystem and migrated to Samsung S24 (my wife' story), those plugs effectively stop working via bluetooth. Disconnects, no good ANC, pairing i…

Yeah, but I hear that bluetooth is a bad massive standard and there are multiple versions of bluetooth, so one bluetooth earpiece not working with a rival device is believable.

Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra

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Post by ActionHank »

sandworm101 wrote: post #20
ku1ik wrote: post #3

„Built on Windows”. That’s like anti-ad these days. Maybe, maybe worth looking at if you can run other OS than Windows on it, but that will probably take some time.

Ya, i dont know of anyone wanting to run very large AI models in a windows environment. Or, frankly, on a laptop. Why not just VPN into a dedicated server?

No one is doing serious work on Windows anymore, those who are have yet to realise the clownshow they are collectively a part of.

Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra

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Post by ActionHank »

thewebguyd wrote: post #134
sandworm101 wrote: post #20

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Ya, i dont know of anyone wanting to run very large AI models in a windows environment. Or, frankly, on a laptop. Why not just VPN into a dedicated server?

With BUILD happening tomorrow, I suspect Microsoft is going to have some stuff about local AI there with MS Foundry on Windows/Foundry Local. The timing of this announcement a day before BUILD is obviously intentional. Suddenly all the Windows K2 stuff makes sense, but I doubt it'll be enough. Its too little too late for Microsoft.

They've spent more than a decade cratering their OS. I doubt they will be able to turn it around with one code-named project.

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Post by m-schuetz »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #517

This is obviously intended for running local AI, but the memory bandwidth of 300 GB/sec seems a limiting factor, since this is what limits single user LLM inference tokens/sec. For comparison the M2 Ultra does up to 800 GB/sec, thanks to having a 1024-bit bus vs the RTX Spark's 256-bit bus.

Where did you find the 300GB/s? That's indeed disappointing if true.

Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra

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Post by m-schuetz »

timpera wrote: post #455
VerifiedReports wrote: post #446

Windows is such offensive trash now that it doesn't matter what you run it on. NO WAY.

"Offensive trash" is a bit much, most organizations use it without too many issues. I think it's pretty good!

I prefer windows over others because I'm used to it, but "offensive trash" is pretty fitting with the direction they're going. Windows has been severily enshittified in the past few years. I remember the windows search bar used to work nicely, but nowadays it just shoves Bing into your face on the smallest of typos. My expectation on a search bar like this is that it gracefully handles minor typos or missing letters (like vscode does), but windows search is incentivized by forcing Bing onto you, so they stopped doing a proper search.

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Post by joncrocks »

vel0city wrote: post #416
jval43 wrote: post #303

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My work laptop just started doing this 3 weeks ago! It's insane. Rather new machine too. It gets so hot in my bag I actually worry about it starting a fire one day. I now take it out every night. Obviously I tried googling but no dice. Nothing changed, settings seem in order, no idea what to do.

It's probably a particular device that's causing it to wake. Check out using sleepstudy. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/de...

You can also use `powercfg /requests` (in Admin mode) to see if something is actively preventing shutdown. Sometimes it can be software + HW combos.

Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra

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Post by [deleted] »

strobe wrote: post #518
jraph wrote: post #509

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> Yes, with 128GB RAM, I guess one could even ignore that it is soldered Unless that RAM fails in some way or another, then you have to replace the whole motherboard because of this.

in case of macbooks even if something like usb port controller failed is most likely leads to board replacement as well so is high change that even if RAM is fine it could be useless because some $2 component failure

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Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra

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Post by anonexpat »

mschuster91 wrote: post #490
jon-wood wrote: post #487

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Holy shit. Is this the mythical TV that actually supports Ethernet over HDMI? The fact that this feature is advertised no every HDMI cable and yet supported by approximately no hardware in the real world has been a source of amusement and mild sadness to me for the last decade or so. I'd actually really like a TV that properly supports it because the idea of having one ethernet cable running to my TV and then everyth…

> I'd actually really like a TV that properly supports it because the idea of having one ethernet cable running to my TV and then everything else also getting a wired connection via the HDMI cable its already attached to pleases me I'd more be afraid than happy if a TV were to support that (and even more if laptops would use it to bridge a TV to the home network), simply because a TV that has internet access in any k…

I paid well over $2k for a TV and years later started getting ads. Inspected the traffic and it connects to at least a dozen different Samsung domains on startup and then periodically. I took it off the network permanently and now I no longer own any TVs.
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