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Post by jimkleiber »

hgoel wrote: post #512
dyauspitr wrote: post #458

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Yeah, similar situation for me. All the promises of an optimistic sci-fi future become hollow when one remembers that the person espousing them is openly and actively opposed to those optimistic ideals. Even just the disingenuous boosting of obvious lies that are convenient to his worldview (claiming genuine curiosity), by a supposedly intelligent man, is gross enough.

It has me wonder how much he wants those futures or just knows they are very good vehicles for fundraising, because his personal business model seems to be more based on fundraising and stock price than profits.

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Post by traderj0e »

fontain wrote: post #46
txrx0000 wrote: post #31

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Elon is anti-censorship when it’s censorship of racism, homophobia, sexism and the other things the woke liberal left hate. Elon is pro-censorship for the things he doesn’t like, like the word “cis”. You can be happy that Elon is allowing alt-right speech, that’s fair, he has brought that back to Twitter, slurs are finally allowed again, truly the speech we all long for, but anti-censorship as a principle? Please. Pu…

On Twitter, "cis" is about as censored as racism. Neither one gets you banned, but you're warned when posting.

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Post by lucb1e »

lxgr wrote: post #143
Ir0nMan wrote: post #22

This reads as very performative. You don't have to choose between posting 10 times a day or deleting your account; you could just post less or use it for major updates.

But then how would I know where to get more regular updates as somebody following them there? It used to be a bannable offense to even link to your presence on a competing side; not sure if it still is.

> It used to be a bannable offense to even link to your presence on a competing site

Huh? This sounds like you mean before elon "free speech!" musk but I can only imagine that, if it ever was a thing, it was a thing after. At some point a competitor's links were being blocked, a little 'oops'ie with 'the algorithm' of course. Facebook also pulled some of those over the years. I don't know about outright bans though, especially concerning Twitter before Musk

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by spaghetdefects »

EngineerUSA wrote: post #446
davidw wrote: post #118

My grandparents were pretty WASPy, conservative people who lived in northern Idaho. And they hated the white supremacist/neonazi groups up there with a burning passion. They were of an age to remember people going off to fight in Germany and Asia against that kind of ideology. They would have been absolutely appalled and ashamed to see a business leader throwing those salutes and backing it up with talk of a "white h…

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The entire history of the US is founded on white supremacy. From the genocide of Indigenous people, to slavery, to Hiroshima, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine...

Only Titanic and Avatar earned more money (inflation adjusted) than this film:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birth_of_a_Nation

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Post by lynndotpy »

fareesh wrote: post #460

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> but everything substantial and important happens on x,

This is not true, and you are stuck in a bubble if you believe this. X is not even in the top 10 most used social media platforms.

EFF needs to be on X (550M MAU) about as much as they need to be on Pinterest (570M MAU) or Quora (400M MAU).

Despite having fewer users than X, EFF gets more engagement on BlueSky and Mastodon, probably owing to EFF's mission being antithetical to the political project that is X.

EFF should prioritize the larger platforms, like Pinterest, Reddit (760M MAU), Snapchat (900M MAU), or the various larger Chinese social media platforms before they think about EFF. EFF doesn't even have a WeChat (1343M MAU).

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Post by LastTrain »

romanhn wrote: post #504
LastTrain wrote: post #456

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I live in Idaho I know loads of people and family who I would have bet would reject what is happening in today’s Republican Party but man was I wrong. With very few exceptions they gobble it up.

North Idaho specifically has been a hub for white power movements for a while: https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2024/mar/27/north-idaho-an...

Yes. In the 90's in particular. I'm old and I was in Idaho at the time. What I remember, and I try in vain to remind my conservative family and friends, is that both parties wanted that shit rode out of town on a rail back then. It is now the dominant world view in Idaho conservative politics. I will point to the "accomplishments" of our last legislative session as evidence.

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Post by sequin »

bcantrill wrote: post #331

I was recently asked about our (Oxide's) disposition to Twitter on the Peterman Pod[0], and the rationale for why we're no longer active there is pretty simple: the platform has become a cesspool of hate -- and it's antithetical to promoting a business (or any message, really). Aside from the morality of it (which is significant!), the hate itself is repugnant; it's not something that normal people want to be a part…

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Post by Arubis »

indoordin0saur wrote: post #337
Legend2440 wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The EFF is and has always been a political activist organization. Of course they care about ideological concerns.

Those concerns have evolved away from their original mission. Not an unusual situation for organizations like this as a they shrink and lose relevance.

My sibling in sin, I have an EFF tee from about 2001-2002 that reads, in boldface, “FREE SPEECH HAS A POSSE”. They have always been broadly political.
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