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Post by YZF »

bananalychee wrote: post #527
_heimdall wrote: post #434

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Not sure why this is being down voted. There is a difference for sure between hosting your own email server and using it for official government communications and having your own personal email address used for personal communications. The issue that seemed to completely disappear related to the use of Signal messenger for official white house communications seems more aligned to the email server issue. It was repor…

HN is overrun by partisans whose majority does not care about factual interpretations of current events and flags level-headed comments in favor of cheap shots, double standards, hyperbolic misconstructions, and ad hominem. I don't think it's difficult to be critical of the government without resorting to such low-brow commentary, but it is what it is. I once offended some people by comparing HN to Reddit, but the li…

The moderators need to take a more active stance on getting these hot button political topic wars off HN. We're seeing some sort of brigading and/or manipulation going on here with behaviors (like flagging) that are not consistent with what I think we want to have on the platform. Certainly no following of the guidelines. Just look at the top comment here.

"Normal" people are stuck in two modes, either they ignore it or they need to descend to the same level. I put normal in double quotes since I honestly don't know what's normal any more. I would like to believe the majority of the kind of community we used to have here on HN does not operate at this level of discussion.

To some extent this is a reflection of broader polarization, tribal behavior, and social media manipulation. Even Reuters IMO have chosen a sensationalist headline and seem to have an agenda here. There's an easy tell - can you tell the political orientation of the author by reading the article/comments etc.

This topic could be an interesting one and we could actually have some good discussions about security. Instead it degenerates into what's essentially a political bashing flame war.

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Post by rattlesnakedave »

craftkiller wrote: post #484
miki123211 wrote: post #467

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"no politics" is the immune response to the social-media-fueled, conspiracy-theory-driven "we are the good guys, you basically deserve to die" craze. Both sides are culpable here. In the US, both parties were literally claiming that the elections were stolen (Republicans in 2020, Democrats with the since-debunked 2016 Cambridge Analytica scandal). Other countries had different issues, but the shape of the problem was…

I'd say the bigger issue in 2016 was the Russian interference, which has been proven and has lead to convictions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_20... > Simultaneously, the Republican-led Senate and House Intelligence Committees conducted their own investigations into the Russians' activities. The Senate committee's report, released in five volumes between July 2019 and August 2020, found t…

The Russian collusion narrative has been completely debunked.

Re: Iran-linked hackers breach FBI director's personal email

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Post by tolciho »

kergonath wrote: post #512
kingleopold wrote: post #444

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> the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. Except, of course, that this is historically wrong. Transitions from democracy to dictatorship are common, but I cannot think of one that happened because of "loose fiscal policy".

Athens spending like drunken sailors during the Peloponnesian War and the subsequent Oligarchical Coup d’Etat comes to mind. Or must the dictator be just one person and not a bunch of Orwell's pigs?

Re: Iran-linked hackers breach FBI director's personal email

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Post by phainopepla2 »

jasonlotito wrote: post #503
bergoid wrote: post #429

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>I'd feel obliged to add some "but, her emails..." reference. HRC's secret email server and the leaked Kash Patel emails couldn't be more different. The first one is, in the words of a federal District of Columbia judge: "one of the gravest modern offenses to government transparency". [1] The second one is the malicious leaking of some private emails. These emails are frankly none of our business (unless you are part…

> HRC's secret email server and the leaked Kash Patel emails couldn't be more different. That's not what the "but, her emails..." reference implies. It's not saying they are the same thing. It's saying that the amount of attention and excitement made about her emails was a show. And you know it was a show, a mockery, because with cases like this where something equally bad happens and nothing will come from it. Same…

> And you know it was a show, a mockery, because with cases like this where something equally bad happens and nothing will come from it

How is this case equally bad? It's just his private email being hacked, he did nothing wrong.

There are probably about a thousand things you could point to in the Trump administration that are worse than Clinton's private email server, but this isn't one of them.

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Post by esseph »

rattlesnakedave wrote: post #532
craftkiller wrote: post #484

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I'd say the bigger issue in 2016 was the Russian interference, which has been proven and has lead to convictions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_20... > Simultaneously, the Republican-led Senate and House Intelligence Committees conducted their own investigations into the Russians' activities. The Senate committee's report, released in five volumes between July 2019 and August 2020, found t…

The Russian collusion narrative has been completely debunked.

Really?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_investigation_origins_c...

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Post by esseph »

Amezarak wrote: post #489
ziml77 wrote: post #469

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It tells me that they are afraid of their safety and the safety of their families. They would risking backlash from a billionaire who loves intimidation tactics, who currently has the highest amount of power of any individual in the US, and who has nutty followers who would act on his behalf and let him pretend he was not at all happy about what they are doing. The people who have come forward about Epstein's abuses…

If you’re talking about Trump, you may remember that E Jean Carroll won a lawsuit against him. She’s walking the earth and continuing to live a public life. And again, millions of dollars are available from settlement funds if Epstein was involved, there’s already some of the best lawyers in the country begging to represent you, and there’s people volunteering to pay for your security needs. You’re also ignoring the…

> And of course if anything was released from super secret “the files” they’re definitely still covering up, they’d become publicly known.

They've been caught trying to do Trump related reactions at least three times now.

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Post by ineedasername »

kingleopold wrote: post #444
edg5000 wrote: post #419

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We'd have to look at the longest-running democracies and observe how they handled periodic refactorings

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Pithy. But a made up quote by Tytler, he never said or wrote that.

Tyler expressed some skepticism of Democracies but nothing like this. The too on-the-nose nature of this often passed along bit of propaganda should also be the giveaway that it might be one of those rare things on the internet that someone may have been less than honest about the origins, and go look and see.

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Post by esseph »

drnick1 wrote: post #53
embedding-shape wrote: post #5

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> his personal email should be pretty uninteresting except for stuff like HIPAA, amazon purchases, communications with friends / family. (good for HUMINT) But other than that, there shouldn't be anything in there which should make the news. It'll be interesting to see whether or not that bears out. Aren't these the same people who apparently used Signal with a journalist in the chat, and had military conversations in…

> Aren't these the same people who apparently used Signal with a journalist in the chat, and had military conversations in that very chat? Signal is one of the most secure communication platforms out there, but it is obviously not immune to human error or social engineering.

https://www.404media.co/the-signal-clone-the-trump-admin-use...

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Post by esseph »

LtWorf wrote: post #498
demosito666 wrote: post #369

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And it is more than likely. US and Iran probably can’t defeat each other militarily (us obviously can, but it requires full scale ground invasion which is not even contemplated at the moment). And both can’t back out of the conflict. So the likely outcome is that the conflict escalates until one of the regimes snaps and it becomes to somehow politically possible to back out. Collapse of the regime in Iran seems unlik…

USA cannot do a full scale invasion without major internal unrest.

If the newest batch of 10,000 is approved, we're up to 17,000 combat troops deployed for this. (Marines there as of Mar 27, another 3,500 in about two weeks, and then at least 1 battalion of the 82nd Airborne, plus another 10,000 requested)

I have heard other units getting pre-mobilization / warnings.

https://www.stripes.com/theaters/middle_east/2026-03-27/82nd...

(This would not nearly be enough troops for large scale ground conflict, but it might be enough to go into the island tunnels looking for drones and ballistic missiles while the US tries to hold open the straight by force for... However long that takes)

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