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Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Post by dzhiurgis »

mindslight wrote: post #506
dzhiurgis wrote: post #505

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At the bottom of article: > Between 7 October 2023 and 15 March 2026, the UN's humanitarian affairs office, OCHA, says 1,071 Palestinians were killed in the West Bank, including at least 233 children. Does that sound like genocide? Meanwhile, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_7_attacks says 1,195 civilians and security forces killed. 4300 rockets launched. How many people would that have been if Israel was jammin…

I was not making the argument that the situation is genocide. Rather I was pointing out that your comments constitute incitement to genocide.

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Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Post by mindslight »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #531
mindslight wrote: post #506

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I was not making the argument that the situation is genocide. Rather I was pointing out that your comments constitute incitement to genocide.

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lol. That refrain has gotten pretty tired and even the mainstream is waking up to how preposterous it is.

Suffering horrific atrocities in your culture's past is not some license to commit your own new atrocities. Seriously, try applying your own rationalizations to the Palestinian perspective and see how that makes you feel - can October 7th be justified because "[Israelis] have been attacking [Palestinian] civilians forever" ? The answer is a resounding NO.

As I said, it's cycle of violence.

Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Post by [deleted] »

throw310822 wrote: post #394
YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #358

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That's a legitimate question and it has no good answer. Not just Sudan. There is an ongoing genocide in Myanmar, against the Rohingya. There is an ongoing genocide against the Uyghurs in china. None of those get nearly the amount of coverage the genocide in Gaza gets, or, now the war in Iran and Lebanon. I have no idea why. I have recently started to grow a bit paranoid and wonder whether I am being manipulated by th…

> why only Gaza, and not the other genocides? Super easy answer: because only on Gaza your government openly sides with the perpetrators, arms and finances them, the media justify them, laws are passed to curb criticism and punish boycotts, and people in online discussion forums bring up always the same debunked arguments and rhetorical devices to divert the attention [1], blame the victims and justify the perpetrato…

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Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Post by poisonarena »

oa335 wrote: post #487
poisonarena wrote: post #478

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a poll of 1000 people in a country of 7 million.. ouch!!! got me!!!

> poll of 1000 people Yes… that’s how polls work… Do you have an actual rebuttal or have the wounds to your ego and identity rendered you incapable of substantive responses? Genocidal attitudes pervade Israeli society; both its leaders and its citizens. Surveys by the aChord Center at the Hebrew University found that 64% of Jewish Israelis believe there are "no innocent people" in the Gaza Strip https://archive.is/ID…

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Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Post by RuslanL »

pickleglitch wrote: post #483
RuslanL wrote: post #375

This is a side effect of using a guerilla terrorist tactics - normal people are start to be seen as "threat".

A side effect of brutal oppression is that it drives people to use guerilla terrorist tactics.

Yes, it is a downward spiral. How do you propose to stop it, assuming both parties want another one to disappear from reality, and see any compromise as weakness?

Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Post by ImPostingOnHN »

nailer wrote: post #520
vladgur wrote: post #494

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But what GP said is true - we can see UNRWA educational materials.[0] Im not sure what is being taught in orthodox jewish schools in Israel, but I’m pretty certain that in secular Israeli public schools, death of Arab neighbors is not glorified, terrorism and martyrdom is not glorified. [1] Unlike that of UNRWA. In other words, one side promotes violence, the other does not [0] https://www.cfr.org/articles/teaching-h…

HN flagged a post that pointed out that Palestinians continually attack Israeli civilians. One can listen to any news article to point out each night’s rocket attacks and confirm them. It’s not surprising they would also flag a post pointing out UNRWA curriculum. Because people flag facts, this site is essentially a cesspool when it comes to discussing anything political. The moderators have recently been manually un…

> HN flagged a post that pointed out that Palestinians continually attack Israeli civilians

I think the people might have chosen to downvote it for omitting the critical context that israelis continually attack Palestinian civilians, more frequently and in greater numbers.

Personally, I don't think that critical omission was done intentionally. People make mistakes! It's how we respond when those mistakes are pointed out, which defined us. Do we acknowledge the mistake, correct ourselves, maybe apologize? Or do we double down and complain when people point it out?

Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Post by donkeybeer »

nailer wrote: post #518
hjkl0 wrote: post #407

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> i am very doubtful there will ever be a peaceful solution. I wonder if there’s room for any actual discussion here. This topic is damned from the first upvote. Curious what people’s thoughts are about a non-peaceful solution. For example, do you think that other countries should send their militaries over to help one of the sides win?

Yes. Other Arab states should run Gaza after Hamas is destroyed to ensure Gaza is safe, wealthy and deradicalized.

The first and most important and existential order of business is accounting and decommissioning/transfer of the 200 illegal nukes from the country that built and hosted and still lies about them. It's not just about the middle east, its a matter of the entire worlds potential destruction into nuclear chaos due to nukes ilegally being in the hands of a paranoid violent entity with a long history of unprovoked aggressions.

Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Post by nxor2 »

disqard wrote: post #296
nxor2 wrote: post #191

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I was shadowbanned for mentioning Iryna Zarutska. Most political topics can be connected to technology: technology after all is often how we hear of and discuss these things.

How did you realize you were shadowbanned? I'm curious because I sometimes wonder, if that happened to me, would it affect the way in which I engage with this website? FWIW, I often lurk, but sometimes engage (like right now). Perhaps it could happen to me and I would not realize it for a while...

Hey there, sorry for the late reply. It's as simple as logging out and viewing the page. If you can't see your comments, they are not being shown to anyone but you when you are logged in. I asked hn moderation about this. It has to do with being flagged and downvoted. I don't know the remaining details. I hope this helps. I practically begged hn to consider the ramification of shadowbanning and the like. I understand the spam angle, but as a minority (who also has minority opinions) it makes me very sad that people are unwilling to believe that people dare disagree with them.

Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Post by nxor2 »

suburban_strike wrote: post #501
disqard wrote: post #296

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How did you realize you were shadowbanned? I'm curious because I sometimes wonder, if that happened to me, would it affect the way in which I engage with this website? FWIW, I often lurk, but sometimes engage (like right now). Perhaps it could happen to me and I would not realize it for a while...

When your karma stops changing one way or the other is the biggest giveaway.

See my response above. You can also log out and see if your comments are shown to a user who isn't logged in. If your comments are only shown to you when you are logged in, then you are shadowbanned.

Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Post by js212 »

jiaosdjf wrote: post #421

This kid will grow up and fight, and I don't blame him. Gaza is a concentration camp, West Bank is an apartheid. These people have the audacity to bribe and threaten our governments to do their nationalist ethno-state bidding in one hand while pushing the narrative that the west must not have any identity or borders in the other. They fund PACs that threaten 80% of congress with "we'll front an opposition candidate a…

Wtf is this Jew hate and why is it on HN?
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