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Post by asdff »

moolcool wrote: post #321
asdff wrote: post #296

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You pick up the ipad off the coffee table, then what? This is the issue with the ipad since it has been released. What is the value proposition? Bigger iphone? Clumsier macbook? I guess it sells somehow or else tim cook would have shitcanned it already.

My library gives free Libby and PressReader, so it would let me read The New Yorker more comfortably than I can on my laptop of phone.

To each their own. To me it would be more annoying to read something on an ipad vs laptop because I'd have to hold the ipad up or prop it up somehow.

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Post by harry8 »

duxup wrote: post #510
harry8 wrote: post #489

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if you can put up with each update making it worse, slower, less precise user interface. There's a reason old macs run linux rather than macos or go to landfil. For the amount charged they should be usable for 15-20 years. Enschittification is very much an apple thing. Cue outraged apple cult memebers.

I’ve got an old iPhone 8 that runs great.

I've got an iphone 6 that doesn't, along with a couple of ipads that switch on but are useless and a couple of macs that now have to run linux to be useful in any way.

I've also got an iphone 15 pro that has started on on the enschittification update path. Pauses after presses, many more typos and it's just not slick and nice like when it was new.

But sure, in my experience, apple zelaots just won't believe it happens even while observing it.

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Post by yborg »

starkparker wrote: post #235
OberstKrueger wrote: post #127

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Tablets need an edge where you can grip it. Without thicker bezels, it’s harder to hold it without your fingers being on the screen. This is much less of an issue for phone-sized devices.

This has always bugged me. - Why is grip a feature of the bare tablet and not part of a case accessory? - Why is the grip point the flat glass front of the display, instead of anything more ergonomic for actually holding it? Phones don't do this, not even 7" phablets, nor for holding them horizontally, nor holding them with two hands gamepad-style during gameply. Why do tablets?

Because most tablets are intended to be as thin and compact as possible while being too large to wrap a hand around. Imagine the complaints if Apple told people to buy a case so they could hold the product. Imagine putting a ledge on one side to hold it oh hey, it's a Kindle Scribe (and still ALSO has a bigger bezel than the iPad Pro.)

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Post by mauflows »

musictubes wrote: post #514
snypher wrote: post #364

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>hated dealing with a laptop Can you expand on this, as im having a hard time comprehending. At the least, a laptop is a tablet with a built in stand :). How is a laptop hard to deal with?

Music production with a DAW is better on a computer. Music performance is much better on an iPad. There is a big difference between direct touch controls and using a trackpad. Apps like AUM and AniMoog Z highlight what makes music making on an iPad amazing. And people here don't want to hear this but the closed nature of the App Store is why audio is so strong on both ios and iPadOS. There are far more music apps for…

Yea even windows laptops suffer for similar reasons. Bad drivers (esp from discrete GPUs) can cause DPC latency that’s near impossible to tame

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Post by wahnfrieden »

GuinansEyebrows wrote: post #407
mrkpdl wrote: post #389

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That sounds like the existing Magic Keyboard for the current iPad airs and pros, can you explain the difference a bit more?

i bought a magic keyboard for my 11" ipad pro and ultimately didn't use it much. it does have a traditional laptop-style hinge, but the way the ipad mounts to the case brings it forward over the keyboard more than with a regular laptop. the hinge also doesn't allow for a very wide range of motion (even compared to macbooks). finally, the center of gravity is really high compared to a laptop which makes it awkward to…

the point of that hinge, besides weight distribution, is to make it easy to reach and touch the bottom of the screen, and so that it's not fully perpendicular to your finger.

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Post by Jeremy1026 »

lossyalgo wrote: post #517
Jeremy1026 wrote: post #358

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TVs are traditionally a shared experience. But even still, I have 2 TVs for every person in my household.

Are you being sarcastic? Why would anyone need 2 TVs, much less every person in the house?

I'm not being sarcastic. And I really don't think my household is that far above average. We have three "living room" type areas. One in each bedroom. One in my office. One in my wife's office. I'd wager the American average is >1 per person in the house.

Edit: Looks like there is some research to suggest that Number of TVs > Number of People in Household. 2.93 TVs to 2.54 people. https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/more-tv-sets-2-93-than-people...

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Post by tootie »

spudlyo wrote: post #18

I'm about to head to the gym with my 12.9-inch 2017 vintage iPad Pro, which is still going strong. I prop it up on the elliptical trainer every other day or so for entertaining me while I grind out an hour of cardio. I use it for reading, watching YouTube, listening to music, audiobooks, etc. It's been my regular gym buddy for years, and is showing no signs of needing to be replaced. It's stuck on iPadOS 17.7.10, whi…

Yeah, I think the number 1 use case for tablets is "portable TV" followed by "makeshift touchscreen kiosk". It really doesn't need a lot of features. I have an iPad setup as a little home dashboard and it's literally stuck on iOS 9 but it does it's job.

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Post by infecto »

ebbi wrote: post #429
nesky wrote: post #248

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The flip side here is if I could use an iPad to replace the MacMini on my desk and connect to a monitor with the same support my Mac does I'd most likely have a top end iPad Pro as opposed to my mildly spec'd MacMini M2 and iPad Air M1. I'd literally spend MORE money on that 1 iPad than both existing iPad and Macs I have today.

I wonder if something like that is in the works, given touch screen capability coming to Macs, and Tahoe being geared for touch UX...

I mean we can always wish but I think Thi’s has been the major gripe for a number of years. They could run macOS today in an iPad. Alternatively they could at the very least copy some of the basic workflows in iOS but it’s just different enough that even with a keyboard the iPad feels off compared to a Mac.

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Post by TowerTall »

coldtea wrote: post #332
bigstrat2003 wrote: post #312

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> they keep circling around it, trying not to make iPads accidentally powerful enough for someone to skip buying a MacBook. Which is really silly, because if someone needs to do actual work they are not going to do it on an iPad no matter how capable it is. The form factor simply does not work for getting work done. Apple has nothing to fear here.

>Which is really silly, because if someone needs to do actual work they are not going to do it on an iPad no matter how capable it is. The form factor simply does not work for getting work done.* Nonsens. The iPad is basically a 11 to 13 (Pro) monitor+computer with an amazing touch screen. Adding the official keyboard folio, or any bluetooth keyboard/mourse is trivial, and it makes for an excellent on-the-go machine.…

As a Windows user who had several MS Surface tablets I fully agree that the form factor would make it a very suitable on-the-go device.

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Post by theshackleford »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #312
tomaskafka wrote: post #234

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Tim Cook's fear of people not buying a full set of Apple devices for each person is the driving force behind not just the lack of multiuser support, but also the overall nerfing of iPadOS. For the past 5+ years it's been, "This will be the year of real work on the iPad," but they keep circling around it, trying not to make iPads accidentally powerful enough for someone to skip buying a MacBook.

> they keep circling around it, trying not to make iPads accidentally powerful enough for someone to skip buying a MacBook. Which is really silly, because if someone needs to do actual work they are not going to do it on an iPad no matter how capable it is. The form factor simply does not work for getting work done. Apple has nothing to fear here.

> Which is really silly, because if someone needs to do actual work they are not going to do it on an iPad no matter how capable it is. The form factor simply does not work for getting work done.

I know plenty of people who in fact have moved to an iPad as a primary computing device, including for work/business. Including a handful of engineering leaders using remote-code solutions.

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