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Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by fuzzfactor »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #482
staticman2 wrote: post #478

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If your work computer is taking 10 seconds to open the calculator something is very odd since my windows 11 work computer opens it just fine.

All I know is it's an infuriating experience that I basically have to speedrun through almost every single day before I can actually get work done. My Linux laptop must be over a decade old by now and it just doesn't have this problem. The Windows 98 computer I had as a child didn't have this problem. Whatever it is that Microsoft is doing they should probably stop. A goddamn calculator application shouldn't require…

With Windows 11, all the stuff going on in the background and so much new excess disk I/O just dwarfs that of Windows 10 on the same hardware.

And that was orders of magnitude more than W98.

Your SSDs are getting hammered like never before.

The first time you open the new, sluggish replacements for old standbys they take way more time to load, but then if you don't turn off the PC completely they are already in memory lots of times so they pop up faster in subsequent times, and with simple things like Calculator the actual calculation is not any slower than it was in 1998.

At least as long as your PC hardware is 20X as fast :\

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by matheusmoreira »

lenkite wrote: post #510
matheusmoreira wrote: post #484

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The new calculator isn't just slow to open, it seems to have actual input lag too. God I miss the old calculator. To me it's not sad, it's infuriating. This corporation is worth a trillion dollars. Why can't they do their jobs? I'm sure the old calculator could be maintained and improved without screwing it up beyond belief. Send us some fat stacks and we'll do it.

Its AI and not humans that make up that trillion dollars and its AI enshloppification that created the new calculator. You are not AI - no fat stack for you.

They're not gonna put LLM nonsense in the freaking calculator, right?

> It looks like you're trying to calculate averages. Would you like help with that?

> Did you know Microsoft™ Office™ Excel™ has a formula for that? Rent Microsoft™ Office™ Excel™ today! Only $200/month in a perpetual payment plan!

What a time to be alive.

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by pqtyw »

5o1ecist wrote: post #286
pqtyw wrote: post #94

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> Welcome to 2026 But anyone with basic experience in Python could have written that same app in minutes 20 years ago?

[flagged]

Well at least 10-15 you could just copy pasted exact same thing in a few minutes yet. But regardless even a basic notepad app is significantly more than a tkinter window with an input field.

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by ptx »

scoopr wrote: post #90
Longhanks wrote: post #4

They’re turning Notepad into what Wordpad was (or was supposed to be). Now everyone looking for the light weightiest *.txt editor must find a new tool...

Well, at least they brought back edit[0] [0] https://github.com/microsoft/edit

But the rest of QBASIC is missing.

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by matheusmoreira »

fuzzfactor wrote: post #530
matheusmoreira wrote: post #484

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The new calculator isn't just slow to open, it seems to have actual input lag too. God I miss the old calculator. To me it's not sad, it's infuriating. This corporation is worth a trillion dollars. Why can't they do their jobs? I'm sure the old calculator could be maintained and improved without screwing it up beyond belief. Send us some fat stacks and we'll do it.

>God I miss the old calculator. Prayer won't help you now ;) With numbers >1000 they are of course displayed with thousands separators as 1,000 (text) now like you would see in financial reports, how attractive. Big numbers have a few commas too. No longer displayed as unseparated numerical constants, like you know, computers have always used. And if you copy the figure from the calculator display, by right-clicking…

Wow that's annoying. Just reproduced the issue on my work computer. It's real. It even localizes the commas into periods too which is amazing because it has the potential to be parsed as a floating point number!

Just for the record, I just timed how long it took for the calculator to open. Eleven seconds. That's how long it took for it to display a window on the screen. A useless blue filled window that did nothing. It took a total of 17 seconds for it to show the calculator controls and be usable. This isn't a loaded machine, it's a freshly booted Windows system that's been at rest literally doing nothing for over five minutes. Notepad opened and was usable in less than one second.

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by matheusmoreira »

fuzzfactor wrote: post #531
matheusmoreira wrote: post #482

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All I know is it's an infuriating experience that I basically have to speedrun through almost every single day before I can actually get work done. My Linux laptop must be over a decade old by now and it just doesn't have this problem. The Windows 98 computer I had as a child didn't have this problem. Whatever it is that Microsoft is doing they should probably stop. A goddamn calculator application shouldn't require…

With Windows 11, all the stuff going on in the background and so much new excess disk I/O just dwarfs that of Windows 10 on the same hardware. And that was orders of magnitude more than W98. Your SSDs are getting hammered like never before. The first time you open the new, sluggish replacements for old standbys they take way more time to load, but then if you don't turn off the PC completely they are already in memor…

If the storage was the bottleneck I would expect opening notepad for the first time to be just as slow. Instead it is about 17 times faster.

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by thezipcreator »

benbristow wrote: post #298
UqWBcuFx6NV4r wrote: post #285

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What’s the point of your comment? We know that markdown is text, we understand that text is text. LLMs have very obviously been intentionally trained to work with markdown, specifically. Its prominence in LLM output far outweighs the real-world existence of raw Markdown online. That’s the point that was being made. What’s next. Are you going to say stochastic parrot?

stochastic parrot

pochastic starrot

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by zadikian »

LtWorf wrote: post #529
pferde wrote: post #489

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Spell check is fine - highlight misspelled words, offer corrections when asked. What's incredibly harmful is autocorrect, as it slowly but surely causes vast majority of computer users to become partly illiterate. And nobody gives a damn, because hey, we're efficiently saving time!

It didn't cause me to become illiterate, it caused me to give up using it and find something else since it was "correcting" a lot of things that were correct to begin with, and going back to re-change them became a chore in the only 10 minutes I used it.

TextEdit prefs (not systemwide prefs) have easy checkboxes to disable all that, also the smart quotes. Also gotta make it default to plain text.

The reason I dropped it was cause of a bug where I'd highlight text, copy, and it's actually copy the wrong block of text. Idk the trigger but seems related to larger files.

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by themafia »

perching_aix wrote: post #431
themafia wrote: post #387

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> Change happens. The low level tool that has served to rescue more systems than I can count does not need to "change" simply because "it happens, bro." > while we can mechanistically You can rule it out with process as well. As in "don't change what isn't broken." > If they can introduce an RCE to Notepad Then they clearly feel they have no viable competition. This is table stakes. Getting it wrong should lose you m…

If I told you to stop using computers, and then you won't have computer problems, I don't think you would find that particularly helpful or charitable either, would you? What you find a trusty "low-level" tool is a demo application for a basic WYSIWYG text editor. They modernized it so that it remains being perceived that way, instead of letting it be increasingly misclassified as a legacy product for the enthusiast,…

> letting it be increasingly misclassified

"No, it's the customers who are wrong."

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by somenameforme »

delecti wrote: post #504
somenameforme wrote: post #397

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Imagine the result if everybody took to this mindset. Look at everything that's on your desk right now, and what percent of it was made in e.g. China. Imagine if they decided to just start jamming political slogans onto everything. Or for something closer to home, surgeons and anesthesiologists are largely conservative. [1] Imagine if they started signaling their politics. Many people, ironically often those most pre…

A few cosmetic names for patch versions and political banners on websites seems pretty mild. I was a constant user of Notepad++ for more than a decade (until moving my last computer to Linux a few months ago), and never had any idea that they did any of the messaging listed on their Wikipedia. If anything, I could stand for most things to be just a bit more political than them. Most things are way more political than…

What non-political things would you say are "way" more political than what they're doing? What I mean by non-political is that you kind of expect this sort of nonsense in the media or whatever, but not a text editor. They also have their schtick in the documentation, and at times have included it as 'easter eggs' in the program itself.

It's already made the software a target for hacking amongst other things. Taking positions that resonate with perhaps half the people in 15% of the world, and piss off a sizable chunk of people in the remaining 85% of the world is not a great idea. And, from my perspective, it's not just about self defense - but why do you even want to do that?

I hold some fringe views relative to many on here at least, and I don't make any secret of it either - but imagine by username was like 'IllegalImmigrantsAreIllegal' or something. It'd be like 'oh cool, I see you're 13.' I see this as something along the same lines. If the topic comes up, it comes up, but making it a part of your identity is childish and antagonistic.

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