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Officials Claim Drone Incursion Led to Shutdown of El Paso Airport

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Post by dragontamer »

lysace wrote: post #529
dragontamer wrote: post #524

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She does that 'Captain Kirk' rhyme in the English version too though. The real treat for German listeners is the first verse: ich, mich, dich, and neun-und-neunZIG (zig is pronounced like ich in the main German dialect). With all of the 'neunundneunzig' (aka 99) repeated throughout the song, the ich/dich/mich/vielleicht rhymes is really a superior start over the English version. It's a rhyming scheme that cannot be r…

Live performance (2018!) in German with English subtitles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO5lfJ9dhs (I can mostly understand spoken German. Have heard this song in German many times before. Never got the message. It's tricky!)

For me, singing the words myself forces me to understand them.

So just sing along. Every word, and understand as much as you can.

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Once you know all the words, then the next step is to learn the grammar and learn how the words work together. If you give it a few months, full understanding will come!

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Post by jacquesm »

lysace wrote: post #512
dragonwriter wrote: post #505

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“Threat” might be an exaggeration. https://www.newsweek.com/us-military-shot-down-party-balloon...

Fox News first reported that the airborne object was intercepted after raising concerns of a potential drone operating near the southern border. Officials later concluded the object was not an unmanned aircraft but a party balloon, a U.S. official told the outlet. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-military-shot-down-party... US military shot down party balloon near El Paso after drone suspicion, official says Would…

Just think about the terrorist potential here. Buy a $10 party balloon, let it go near a major airport and they'll panic and shut down the airport. That's a lot of havoc for a couple of bucks.

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Post by tootie »

input_sh wrote: post #278
spaceywilly wrote: post #271

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Hanlon’s Razor "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." Someone probably just screwed up

You don't screw up something this major, it doesn't happen by accident nor by incompetence. They had plans to bomb something south of that airport, they had to postpone those plans now that the info is public enough that whatever their target was is definitely aware of those plans.

This is exactly what happened and not to be immodest but it was my first guess before it was confirmed. The closure was a miscommunication between the FAA and Pentagon set off by a balloon. This was pure incompetence and arrogance. This HN thread is almost unbelievable how many wild guesses were made.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/airspace-closure-followed-spat-...

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Post by siavosh »

duped wrote: post #527
Eddy_Viscosity2 wrote: post #153

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Even Cartels know that shooting down civilian aircraft in US airspace would be an escalation that would lead to heavy retaliation. Doesn't seem likely to me.

Yea you have to be a nation state like Israel, Iran or Russia to blow civilian aircraft out of the sky with no retaliation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

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Post by mjhay »

TitaRusell wrote: post #431
ryandrake wrote: post #384

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They'd probably quickly stop cheering as their own homes and families were destroyed as collateral damage, which is what would happen if the "full force of the US military" were deployed against the cartels.

The last time America invaded Mexico City it created martyrs. It's a fascinating story that they do not teach at US highschools lol.

Curious, because the martyrs were Mexican high-school students.

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Post by IAmGraydon »

They were testing a laser-based anti drone weapon in the area. The administration lied that it was in response to Mexican drones to stoke fear in xenophobia in their base as that is what keeps them in power (making scared people feel like they have some control).

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Post by RiverCrochet »

mikkupikku wrote: post #464
RiverCrochet wrote: post #446

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Idk, if the number of people executed increases over time, maybe it doesn't. https://www.afr.com/world/asia/singapore-executions-touch-22... This article cites Singapore saying the existing laws mostly get low-level users and not kingpins because kingpins operate outside of the country. https://www.vice.com/en/article/singapore-drug-executions/ Decriminalization of drug use doesn't have to mean decriminalization of a…

Decriminalization without legalization is something I can't support. If it's not illegal for me to have and use a drug, them why should I be forced to buy it from criminals? Either legalize it, or go whole hog on criminalizing it. Execute the dealers and put users into mandatory rehab, or let people buy it in shops. Any of these half measures are intolerable, they exist to make sure the situation is in a constant sta…

There's a significant number of people who want their life micromanaged and a significant number of people who want to micromanage other people's lives. The need to have a sense of control and therefore safety manifests itself in weird ways in various populations and can't be contained without a lot of sustained, continuous effort, just like the other base desires of humankind. I just wish the federal government didn't have a hand in it, and then all the people who want to execute weed smokers can do so in their own states and leave the other states alone.

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Post by dboreham »

duped wrote: post #527
Eddy_Viscosity2 wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even Cartels know that shooting down civilian aircraft in US airspace would be an escalation that would lead to heavy retaliation. Doesn't seem likely to me.

Yea you have to be a nation state like Israel, Iran or Russia to blow civilian aircraft out of the sky with no retaliation.

US has also blown a civilian airliner out the sky.

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Post by dboreham »

massysett wrote: post #24
Shank wrote: post #17

Nuclear weapons test? The latest test treaty just expired. Edit: There are two TFRs, one in El Paso and one right next to it in the mountains: https://tfr.faa.gov/tfr3/?page=detail_6_2234

Wouldn’t the Nevada Test Site be much better for this? Huge, government controlled, no major airports or cities, and moreover, already used for this sort of thing.

No because there's no enemy there to shoot at.
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