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Re: Prism

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Post by BlueTemplar »

Matl wrote: post #455
BlueTemplar wrote: post #443

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assange became a Russian asset *while* in a whistleblowing-related job. (And he is also the reason why Snowden ended up in Russia. Though it's possible that the flight plan they had was still the best one in that situation.)

So exposing corruption of Western governments is not worthwhile because it 'helps' Russia? Aha, got it. I am increasingly wondering what there remains of the supposed superiority of the Western system if we're willing to compromise on everything to suit our political ends. The point was supposed to be that the truth is worth having out there for the purpose of having an informed public, no matter how it was (potentia…

No, exposing Western corruption is all well and good, but the problem is that at some point Assange seems to have decided "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", which was a very bad idea when applied to Putin's Russia.

Re: Prism

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Post by realaaa »

vitalnodo wrote: post #2

Previously, this existed as crixet.com [0]. At some point it used WASM for client-side compilation, and later transitioned to server-side rendering [1][2]. It now appears that there will be no option to disable AI [3]. I hope the core features remain available and won’t be artificially restricted. Compared to Overleaf, there were fewer service limitations: it was possible to compile more complex documents, share proj…

great context - thanks ! so yeah maybe Overleaf is the way to go now :)

Re: Prism

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Post by currymj »

BlueTemplar wrote: post #454
currymj wrote: post #152

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this is probably a net negative as there are many very good scientists with not very strong English skills. the early years of LLMs (when they were good enough to correct grammar but not enough to generate entire slop papers) were an equalizer. we may end up here but it would be unfortunate.

But then, assuming we are fine with this state of things with LLMs : why would it be upon them to submit in English, when instead reviewers and readers can themselves use a LLM translator to read the paper ?

this would be a good development. seems very far off.

Re: Prism

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Post by swyx »

beklein wrote: post #366
swyx wrote: post #214

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oh i was here to post it haha - thank you for doing that job for me so I'm not a total shill. I really enjoyed meeting them and was impressed by the sheer ambition of the AI for Science effort at OAI - in some sense I'm making a 10000x smaller scale bet than OAI on AI for Science "taking off" this year with the upcoming dedicated Latent Space Science pod. generally think that there's a lot of fertile ground for smart…

Wasn't aware you're so active on HN; sorry for stealing your karma. Love the idea of a dedicated series/pod where normal people take on hard problems by using and leveraging the emergent capabilities of frontier AI systems. Anyway, thanks for pod!

not at all about stealing karma, i dont care much about fake internet points.

yes you got the important thing!

Re: Prism

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Post by hcfman »

Perseids wrote: post #341

I'm dumbfounded they chose the name of the infamous NSA mass surveillance program revealed by Snowden in 2013. And even more so that there is just one other comment among 320 pointing this out [1]. Has the technical and scientific community in the US already forgotten this huge breach of trust? This is especially jarring at a time where the US is burning its political good-will at unprecedented rate (at least unprece…

Yeah, to be fair I would be hesitant to have anything to do with any program called prism as well. Hard to imagine that no one brought this up when they were thinking of a name.

Re: Prism

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Post by BlueTemplar »

currymj wrote: post #533
BlueTemplar wrote: post #454

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But then, assuming we are fine with this state of things with LLMs : why would it be upon them to submit in English, when instead reviewers and readers can themselves use a LLM translator to read the paper ?

this would be a good development. seems very far off.

How is it far off if it's already used like this, just on the side of submitters ?

Re: Prism

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Post by Matl »

BlueTemplar wrote: post #531
Matl wrote: post #455

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So exposing corruption of Western governments is not worthwhile because it 'helps' Russia? Aha, got it. I am increasingly wondering what there remains of the supposed superiority of the Western system if we're willing to compromise on everything to suit our political ends. The point was supposed to be that the truth is worth having out there for the purpose of having an informed public, no matter how it was (potentia…

No, exposing Western corruption is all well and good, but the problem is that at some point Assange seems to have decided "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", which was a very bad idea when applied to Putin's Russia.

> Assange seems to have decided "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", which was a very bad idea when applied to Putin's Russia

What if he simply decided that the information he obtained is worth having out there no matter the source? It seems to me that you're simply upset that he dared to do so and are trying very hard to come up with a rationalization for why he's a Bad Guy(tm) for daring to turn the tables. It's a transparent and rather lackluster attempt to shift the conversation from what to who.

Re: Prism

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Post by jascha_eng »

direwolf20 wrote: post #273
jascha_eng wrote: post #127

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Why not filter out papers from people without credentials? And also publicly call them out and register them somewhere, so that their submission rights can be revoked by other journals and conferences after "vibe writing". These acts just must have consequences so people stop doing them. You can use AI if you are doing it well but if you are wasting everyones time you should just be excluded from the discourse altoge…

What do credentials have to do with good science? There are already some roadblocks to publish science in important–sounding journals, but it's important for the neutrality of the scientific process that in principle anyone can do it.

Fair but if spam becomes an issue that blocks good research from happening maybe adding some filters improves the end result more.

Re: Prism

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Post by BlueTemplar »

Matl wrote: post #537
BlueTemplar wrote: post #531

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, exposing Western corruption is all well and good, but the problem is that at some point Assange seems to have decided "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", which was a very bad idea when applied to Putin's Russia.

> Assange seems to have decided "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", which was a very bad idea when applied to Putin's Russia What if he simply decided that the information he obtained is worth having out there no matter the source? It seems to me that you're simply upset that he dared to do so and are trying very hard to come up with a rationalization for why he's a Bad Guy(tm) for daring to turn the tables. It's a…

No, I'm upset that he took money from the Kremlin and hosted a show on Russia Today. (At least it was before 2014 I guess...)

Re: Prism

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Post by Matl »

BlueTemplar wrote: post #539
Matl wrote: post #537

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Assange seems to have decided "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", which was a very bad idea when applied to Putin's Russia What if he simply decided that the information he obtained is worth having out there no matter the source? It seems to me that you're simply upset that he dared to do so and are trying very hard to come up with a rationalization for why he's a Bad Guy(tm) for daring to turn the tables. It's a…

No, I'm upset that he took money from the Kremlin and hosted a show on Russia Today. (At least it was before 2014 I guess...)

One can only hope that you're at least as upset at the double tapping criminals he exposed.
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