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Google is dead. Where do we go now?

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Post by ethersteeds »

bsimpson wrote: post #435
_alternator_ wrote: post #404

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Why doesn’t Signal have the same mindspace that these (imo) marginal apps have? It’s actually private. I wonder if people find it hard to use or something…

Does Signal scale? Until recently, I think the only way to join a Signal was to be explicitly added by a member. It doesn't have all the channels etc. of something like Discord. It doesn't have enough mindshare by normies either. In San Francisco, my entire social graph was on Signal. In NYC, I'm the weirdo that uses Signal for everything. Most locals seem to only use it for things that they explicitly want to be pri…

Won't disagree about channels and mindshare, but will note that Signal got public group links in 2020, not that recent.

https://signal.org/blog/group-links/

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Post by cryptica »

SunshineTheCat wrote: post #61

I recently took someone to go and watch a hockey game. Been a little while but I personally played as a goalie myself. The person kept making the comment that she couldn't see/find the puck and it made it frustrating to watch. As a goalie, not being able to see the puck is pretty normal (especially with big bodies trying to screen you). What I told her was that what matters a lot more than where the puck is, is where…

It's moved to AI training sets. If you can't get your product into the training set of a popular model, it's game over.

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Post by CosmicShadow »

axelthegerman wrote: post #478

It never really worked. Most businesses just paid for customers that were going to or already found them anyways. Not saying ads don't work at all, they definitely increase awareness.

Yet if I turn off my ads my sales drop to nearly nothing, but when I turn them on again I get a steady flow of new customers as well as some repeaters who either forgot about us or needed a reminder to buy again, sometimes literally years later.

It all depends on how big you are, what you sell, and how people can or will find you. I sell something that some people REALLY want, but they will never think to Google if it exists, they just think it's not available anymore/end of story, and I rank #1 unpaid, it's frustrating.

Now I only have one ad platform I can get to work at this point and I've wasted so much money on others, trying again every few months, but they all seem to suck or I don't have the patience and pockets to try and figure them out compared to how I've figured out the one that works enough to make a living off of.

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Post by left-struck »

I knew about duckduckgo for years and it was always too much friction to switch. I tried like 4 times but always went back to google when I had to research something quickly. Eventually the friction of using google became high enough though that the friction of switching was not that much higher. I’ve been using ddg and occasionally duck ai for over a year now.

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Post by shermantanktop »

cookiengineer wrote: post #512
golem14 wrote: post #439

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And yet, here you are, posting ... BTW, I don't explicitly disagree with what you're saying, but it would be good to look at actual data instead of anecdata to know for sure, and the people who have the data are not telling ...

> And yet, here you are, posting ... Correction, I am posting while pooping. I don't care much about social media these days and I draw the line at the toilet door.

Given the word count of your original post, I can tell you that daily psyllium husk is a miracle.

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Post by lolive »

bawolff wrote: post #359
spoaceman7777 wrote: post #181

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None of the numbers I've seen on web usage, platform usage, etc. indicate people are significantly pulling away from online lives. Though, there has been a slight dip in daily social media browsing time in the last couple of years (of course, it also follows the end of the pandemic, and it hasn't ceded back to where it was prior). That does sound like a rather charmed life though. Could also be a sign that people are…

I think the platforms have changed. FB used to be 100% posts by people you know. I opened it today, and maybe 1 out of 50 posts were by someone i know, the rest was "trending" content. Its essentially an entirely different website now.

For what it is worth, here is my experience with Facebook, [a platform that I have learnt to love after my Twitter ban]: I go to the main page, I immediately click the magnifying lens, so I get the list of unread posts of the 10to20 groups I follow. I read them quickly. Then leave. I do that, on a daily basis. Time spent: usually 20 minutes.

Reddit is 99% search only. I go there only on a purpose. [might be replaced by Gemini, eventually]

HN and Alterslash are probably the only source of random info that I still consume.

May be that information containment is a reaction to my 15+ years of addiction to [the good old] Twitter. Or because I have reached age 50.

But the consequence is that I get the news late, and usually because of a search I did. Not because of a proactive algorithm.

Additional thought: in the end I suppose my information un-déluge is the proof that algorithms eventually failed to deliver [i.e point me at things meaningful to me]. The biggest example is Spotify proposals. That is 1% of my music discovery, whereas traditional non-commercial radios and dedicated podcasts are [human curated and] much more diverse.

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Post by noumenon1111 »

apublicfrog wrote: post #371
bdangubic wrote: post #50

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whats a cable tv?

It's what Americans call non free to air television. You're probably being downvoted because it's intrensic there and they assume you must know about it.

It is indeed intrinsic here in America. Pretty much all houses that have been occupied in the last 50 years have at least one coax cable coming out of a wall jack or a corner of the floor. MoCA adapters allow for a nice home networking backbone in a house like that.

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Post by AtlasBarfed »

DrewADesign wrote: post #388
hinkley wrote: post #260

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One of the things I hope will come from the Trough of Disillusionment in cloud computing will be families running redundant file servers hosting the family photos instead of doing everything on IG. Your three tech savvy family members should all have redundant copies of the photos of memaw’s wedding and Uncle Jim when he was 2 and looked exactly like your cousin’s second kid. I don’t need to see those. Your stalker e…

My very vibes-based take is that setting up home servers is the dad jeans of tech hobbies. It's kind of arresting how bewildered many young people are when confronted with anything below the UI layer. I think peak tech savviness happened a bit younger than me: maybe mid-late millennial. After that you start getting into the iPad-from-birth generation for whom tech was rarely a challenge. Tech savviness among young fo…

We still need a lot of plug and Play with home servers.

In theory, AI should be good at helping building interfaces between cloud backups and home server apps. Because AI should be good at apis.

In theory

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Post by stackedinserter »

senthil_rajasek wrote: post #43

I think the author intended the title to be, "Google Ads is dead, Where do I promote my business now?" When I hear "Google" I assume search, oof (sigh of relief). They mention running ads on tiktok or instagram but no mention of youtube ads... Also, In my own experience for my business ( also entertainment) I have found reddit ads to be useful. So my next steps would be, Reddit Ads Youtube Ads Instagram Ads Increase…

How did you run campaigns on reddit? Reddit ads had the worst performance among all platforms I tried, literally zero conversion.
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