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Post by onion2k »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #143
jsheard wrote: post #78

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> The Anna’s archive group is ideologically motivated. They’re definitely not doing this for AI companies. They have a page directly addressed to AI companies, offering them "enterprise-level" access to their complete archives in exchange for tens of thousands of dollars. AI may not be their original/primary motivation but they are evidently on board with facilitating AI labs piracy-maxxing.

You go where the money is. Infra isn’t free. Churches pass the plate every Sunday. Perhaps one day we’ll exist in a more optimal socioeconomic system; until then, you do what you have to do to accomplish your goals (in this context, archivists and digital preservation).

You go where the money is.

That is the opposite of being ideologically motivated unless your ideology happens to be 'capitalism'.

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Post by shaky-carrousel »

Aurornis wrote: post #521
shaky-carrousel wrote: post #341

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Who cares, today is pretty easy to be part of a botnet. Having a slightly outdated lightbulb qualifies, so I'd not bother.

Having an IoT device with security vulnerabilities does not automatically make you vulnerable to botnets because it’s behind your router’s NAT under normal conditions. Botnet infections occur primarily through one of two ways: Vulnerable devices exposed directly to the Internet, or app downloads and installs on persons computing devices. The TV box appears to be a rare hardware version of convincing someone to bring…

Nope, many IoT devices open ports via UPnP. The biggest botnets are composed of (among other things) smart plugs, baby monitors, doorbells, IP cameras...

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by NelsonMinar »

DUDOS wrote: post #118
WD-42 wrote: post #7

Incredible. > A while ago, we discovered a way to scrape Spotify at scale. They wont and shouldn’t divulge the details, but I imagine that would be a fun read!

How they manage to transfer 300TB of data while remaining anonymous is also astonishing.

Perhaps they leased a botnet. https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/10/aisuru-botnet-shifts-fro...

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Post by bpfrh »

lmm wrote: post #449
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #265

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You have been able to buy DRM free digital music from all of the record labels since 2009 from Apple and other stores.

Is that still the case? The option to do that quietly disappeared from Amazon Music a couple of months ago, for example, and they were one of the last few holdouts where you still could. It might be only Apple now?

Quboz, bandcamp, etc.

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Post by nmz »

This might be the perfect time to do archiving before the entire internet gets inundated by sub-par AI generated content.

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Post by DoctorOetker »

I'd rather see them use AI to convert all the scanned scientific articles into proper PDF or other formats.

Also sort and classify the articles by binary size, vs page count, plot count, raster image count etc, in order to compress the outliers and detect when a raster image should have been a plot and convert it to vectorized images etc.

How compact can we get the collective human scientific corpus?

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Post by grvbck »

ninjin wrote: post #475
cess11 wrote: post #464

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No, that's what they ran on when the general public could join on a referral basis. They called that "beta". The technology was already proven, i.e. The Pirate Bay and other torrent networks had already been a success for years. What Spotify likely aimed to show was that they could grow very fast and that their growth was too good to just shut down, like the entertainment industry tried to do with TPB. After they too…

Not sure if it was called "beta" or "alpha" and "closed" is of course up to interpretation, but it was indeed by invitation. Swedish law at the time (still?) had a clause about permitting sharing copyrighted material within a limited circle, which I know Spotify engineers referred to as somewhat legitimising it. I also know for a fact that once the invite-only stage ended there was a major purge of content and I lost…

When I first started using Spotify, a lot of the tracks in my playlists had titles like "Pearl Jam - Even Flow_128_mp3_encoded_by_SHiLlaZZ".

Always made me chuckle, it looked like they had copied half of their catalogue from the pirate bay. It took them a few years to clean that up.

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Post by Dylan16807 »

vintermann wrote: post #375
chrneu wrote: post #219

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be aware that payout rates change based on tiers and a bunch of other factors. So, it would likely take more than 40 million streams to earn $80k. I believe Weird Al posted his streaming revenue a few years ago. He had something like 80 million streams and said he earned about $12. https://www.billboard.com/music/pop/weird-al-yankovic-wrappe... There is a reason people like T Swift and whatnot tour constantly, it's h…

Ad supported streams in Spotify are counted in a separate pool, and only get paid out of the ad revenue pool. Artists can of course complain that "they're selling our music for cheap!", especially in the ad pool. But what's worth remembering is that when it comes to setting optimal price points , Spotify's interest is almost perfectly aligned with the artists. And Spotify has a hell of a lot more data than artists (n…

> Ad supported streams in Spotify are counted in a separate pool, and only get paid out of the ad revenue pool.

What are the rough rates for each pool? That's the important part here. And how many artists are far enough from the average ratio that the detail of two pools matters.

https://soundcamps.com/spotify-royalties-calculator/ This site says $0.00238 is typical for "worldwide" and a lot more than that for US and Europe specifically.

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Post by sva_ »

virtualritz wrote: post #207

I just found out that https://annas-archive.li/ is masked by my German internet provider (SIM.de/Drillisch). I usually use a VPN but I had it switched off temp. to watch Fallout (Prime Video won't let you watch through a VPN). Only when I switched Mullvad back on could I open the site. I didn't know German providers do this.

They also block some foreign "news" like Russia Today last time I checked.
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