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Post by wyclif »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #522
ryandrake wrote: post #312

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> Old days: Get the O'Reilly book for that programming language. Lookup access modifiers in the index. 10 year ago: Google for a blog with an intro to the programming language. There will be a tip about what access modifiers can do. Today: Ask ChatGPT. The answer to this (throughout the ages) should be the same: read the authoritative source of information. The official API docs, the official language specification,…

I like your sentiment about "first principles" of documents -- go to the root source. But for most young technologists (myself included, long long ago), the official docs (man pages for POSIX, MSDN for Win32 etc.) are way too complex. For years, when I was in university, I tried to grasp GUI programming by writing C and using the Win32 API. It was insane, and I did little more than type in code from a "big book of Wi…

Despite my pro-documentation comment above, I think there is a legit criticism that a lot of official documentation is a mess. Take man pages, for instance. I don't think it's a good look for greybeards to say "just go read the man page, kid." Many of those man pages are so out of date. You can't legitimately adopt a position of smug superiority by pointing juniors to outdated docs.

Re: The Junior Hiring Crisis

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Post by ch4s3 »

koakuma-chan wrote: post #530
ch4s3 wrote: post #528

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Yes, its kind of a shitty way to approach life. Assuming that a plumber beats his wife is a really extreme form of classism and you sound like kind of a miserable piece of shit.

I didn't say that he beats his wife. Basically, I was arguing that people who do physical work, or just some hard work that anyone would hate, must be miserable, regardless of whether they admit to being miserable or not, and even regardless of whether you consider them miserable or not, because I don't trust your, or anyone else's judgement on that, because, from my experience, people only point out bad things about…

This is a stupid assertion, plenty of people like being plumbers, or otherwise working with their hands. There no logic in your argument just classism.

I’m not friends with the guy, he’s just done good work for me at a fair price. I have a lot of respect for that, and clearly you don’t respect people who work hard.

You are morally repugnant.

Re: The Junior Hiring Crisis

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Post by alvah »

Herring wrote: post #526
alvah wrote: post #517

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I don't care if you are tired or not, it's not something you can just assert and move on. Also, you know nothing at all of my opinion on whether "a handful of billionaires own everything" is a bad idea or not. All you know about me is I don't agree with you that rising inequality AUTOMATICALLY means some people haven't been rewarded as much as they "should", whatever that means. Reading comprehension, combined with n…

Dude go figure it out yourself, it's not that hard. I remember discussing inequality with friends in 2014, and probably knew about it since Occupy Wall Street (2011). Or earlier. At this point if you still don't get it, with a billionaire in office, surely it's on you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_Wall_Street I got what I needed from here, I'm out.

lol, the arrogance of youth.... I think the point I'm making might be too subtle for your young, idealistic brain.
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