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Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Post by npteljes »

daveguy wrote: post #157

At this point, I wouldn't touch crypto with a 10 ft pole. What happens when everyone recognizes that the whole thing has turned into a money laundering grift? Who's going to give you anything for your bozo bucks? At this rate, it's not going to take long.

What makes you think that the participants are not in on the grift? People are different, some rather supports wholesome stuff, some don't give an f. And it's not just morals that differ, risk-taking is also individually different (and can change with age and other life situation too).

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Post by jayd16 »

taurath wrote: post #293
returningfory2 wrote: post #279

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope, Biden pardoning his son was also widely condemned across the political spectrum as an abuse of the pardon power.

Truly don’t understand the equivalence here.

If you just argue both sides are the same, you get to excuse yourself from self reflection.

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Post by lapcat »

kbd wrote: post #233

The pardon power has been so abused these past few administrations that it's clear there should be constitutional changes in the pardon power, either congressional review, or strip it altogether.

> The pardon power has been so abused these past few administrations

Past few?

How about Ford pardoning Nixon? Or George H.W. Bush pardoning a bunch of Iran-Contra conspirators, thus covering his own ass?

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Post by LunaSea »

pedroma wrote: post #470
netfortius wrote: post #397

Unpopular opinion: America needs/ed this. They nerve truly believed that a Ceaușescu, Hitler, Stalin, Mao were possible in the US. Maybe one or two generations will suffer, but this is a required lesson, for the future maturity of the nation, long term. Assuming they come out in one piece at the other end, of course.

You believe the US on the path to killing tens of millions of its own citizens for the sake of some ideology like Mao, Stalin, and Hitler because a non-violent white collar criminal was given a shortened sentence? Interesting.

You can kill someone without weapons.

And just like the Great Leap Forward, America is well on its way to letting many thousands die from lack of healthcare.

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Post by array_key_first »

gottorf wrote: post #332
bena wrote: post #306

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, because he was guarding them against the current administration abusing the Justice Department to go after them. Same reason he pardoned Fauci and others. And from what we've seen, he was right to do so. Although, they've been angling to declare his pardons void so they can go after whoever they wish.

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Well yes some people commit crimes and others don't. It's not a double standard, it's the same standard.

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Post by adrr »

Alupis wrote: post #481
adrr wrote: post #458

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Because he was prosecuted for doing drugs and owning a gun? There's literal video of Joe Rogan smoking pot and he talks about his concealed weapons permit. It would be a slam dump case, some how i don't think he's getting prosecuted because its selective law open to abuse. Seems perfectly good use of pardon.

The Hunter Biden issue was not about smoking marijuana... that would have been the very least of his multitude of legal problems. Biden's own DoJ was prosecuting the cases - which is important context to consider here.

> Since 2018, Weiss had been investigating Hunter Biden as U.S. attorney. In 2023, Republicans asked Garland to appoint a special counsel, some specifically demanding Weiss, a Republican appointed to his role by President Donald Trump. Garland ultimately appointed Weiss, giving him additional authority. However, congressional Republicans then expressed criticism, some stating Weiss was untrustworthy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_C._Weiss

6 years of investigation and all they could find was that Hunter did drugs and owned a gun. I am sure if we drug tested congress, we could prosecute a bunch of congressmen for the same crime. Maybe thats why supreme court is looking at the constitutionality of the law and its all been ruled unconstitutional in one of the courts districts but hey lets prosecute Hunter Biden for it.

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Post by dotnet00 »

munk-a wrote: post #521
dotnet00 wrote: post #486

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the time that did reek of corruption and misuse of power, but given current state of things, it was the right move.

It protected one individual - there have been a rash of politically motivated moves by the justice department that have targeted plenty of others. I can understand the pardon but the fact that so many other people were left out to dry just reinforces our multi-tiered justice system.

Yeah, that's a very fair point. The persecution of Fauci and anyone associated with bringing the charges against Trump would've also been very predictable targets for pardons.

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Post by soraminazuki »

dboreham wrote: post #241
kbd wrote: post #233

The pardon power has been so abused these past few administrations that it's clear there should be constitutional changes in the pardon power, either congressional review, or strip it altogether.

Agree. It seems to have (never had?) any positive benefit.

Chelsea Manning. Prosecuting her and other whistleblowers instead of the officials they blew the whistle on was a mockery of justice. Though that wasn't the stated reason for the commutation, it was long overdue.
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