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Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by dent9 »

arccy wrote: post #383
godelski wrote: post #361

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> two Firefox windows onto different desktops My favorite is how it'll force move your workspace if you get a popup. To reproduce, get a second monitor, throw your web browser onto that second monitor (not in full screen), and then open a application into full screen on your laptop's screen (I frequently have a terminal there). Then go to a site that gives you a popup for OAuth or a Security Key (e.g. GitHub, Amazon,…

I'm truly annoyed at it reordering the desktops even when i have just a single screen (the built in one). I expect my programs to be in certain order, so switching between them is predictable. Or sometimes it just decided to open a link in a new chrome window instead of just opening a tab.... and not even consistently.

Stop using multiple desktops. Use a single extended desktop. Move the apps where you want them and snap them to one side or the other to any given screen. Done.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by dent9 »

stevage wrote: post #446
lholden wrote: post #369

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I ended up doing something similar a few years ago. Picked up a MacBook Pro M1 Max back when the M1 stuff was new to replace an aging Lenovo running Linux. I actually really loved my Lenovo + Linux, but the M1 was new and shiny and I desperately wanted better battery life. The hardware was great, but life on a Mac always felt a bit convoluted. Updating the OS was especially frustrating as a software developer because…

The one that always surprises me is that there is absolutely no image editor of any kind. But really, I just don't use that many desktop apps (or at least, not generic ones) so I don't have much of an issue on MacOS.

The lack of a native simple image editor does indeed suck. I've been using Paintbrush for years and it's good enough

https://paintbrush.sourceforge.io/

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by radley »

tannhaeuser wrote: post #291
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Is there a HN bingo card? Because we always get a top comment for Linux user who tries Mac and decides they prefer Linux.

I have to agree. The loss of sense of reality among Linux fanboys is really annoying. I had been a Linux notebook user for many years and have praised it on this board years ago. But today the Linux desktop has regressed into a piece of trash even for basic command line usage while providing zero exclusive apps worth using. It's really sad since it's unforced and brought upon Linux users by overzealous developers alo…

It's not unique to Linux users. Anytime a new device is released, there's always a comment from an alternate-device user stating that they prefer their device.

With HN, Linux user comments are voted-up so often that they're worthy of a bingo square.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by 0x457 »

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When you use linux as desktop, sometimes you get into a customization-hole and make everything "just right" because on linux everything is customizable. Then you switch to macOS or Windows or even (not your) linux setup and hate it. When I manage to contain myself entirely to the terminal it's okay, but the moment I have to interact with GUI I start to miss those "just right" things. I can relate. macOS hilariously s…

Honestly, I get the GP completely. It’s not much the customisation hole. It’s just that MacOS is pretty meh as an OS and hilariously Snow Leopard, the first version I ever used, is my favourite amongst all the ones that followed. I like the hardware however. I really wish there was a good laptop using a competitive ARM SoC with great Linux support. I refuse to buy anything from Apple since they started the whole EU s…

Snow Leopard is probably the most loved released. I like Tahoe though.

> I’m seriously considering only using a phone as my personal computing device now that Android takes convergence semi seriously.

Not really. Google, in fact, very opposes that convergence because it will hurt ChromeBook and chomecast sales.

Pretty much any android today and even Nexus phones let you go from usb-c to HDMI, but not Pixels. Because that's what chromecast is for.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by PeterCorless »

DASD wrote: post #276
PeterCorless wrote: post #266

Someone I know saw the 14" starts from $1,599 and the 16" starts at $2,499, and quipped "The most expensive 2 inches ever." However, it is not just because of the larger display. M5 14" starts at: 10-Core CPU 10-Core GPU 16GB Unified Memory 512GB SSD Storage M5 16" starts at: 14-Core CPU 20-Core GPU 24GB Unified Memory 512GB SSD Storage So it's the cost of 4x more core CPU, 10x (double) the core GPU, and +8GB memory.

The 16" doesn't offer the M5(yet), rather the M4 Pro and Max CPUs. Difference also is higher number of performance cores vs efficiency cores and memory bandwidth is significantly higher in the M4 lines(273 and 410 GB/s) versus the M5(153 GB/s).

You're absolutely right and my bad. (I feel like Claude saying that.) Apparently the M4 Pro and M5 Max are coming in February.

https://www.macworld.com/article/2942089/macbook-pro-m5-pro-...

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by PeterCorless »

ElijahLynn wrote: post #282
PeterCorless wrote: post #266

Someone I know saw the 14" starts from $1,599 and the 16" starts at $2,499, and quipped "The most expensive 2 inches ever." However, it is not just because of the larger display. M5 14" starts at: 10-Core CPU 10-Core GPU 16GB Unified Memory 512GB SSD Storage M5 16" starts at: 14-Core CPU 20-Core GPU 24GB Unified Memory 512GB SSD Storage So it's the cost of 4x more core CPU, 10x (double) the core GPU, and +8GB memory.

Where did you get these specs from? The page linked in the OP says the 16 in is only available in M4.

Yeah, it was my boof. I am presuming that when M5 Pro and M5 Max ship in February there will some sort of similar upshift.

https://www.macworld.com/article/2942089/macbook-pro-m5-pro-...

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by lholden »

linehedonist wrote: post #453
lholden wrote: post #369

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I ended up doing something similar a few years ago. Picked up a MacBook Pro M1 Max back when the M1 stuff was new to replace an aging Lenovo running Linux. I actually really loved my Lenovo + Linux, but the M1 was new and shiny and I desperately wanted better battery life. The hardware was great, but life on a Mac always felt a bit convoluted. Updating the OS was especially frustrating as a software developer because…

What’s missing in the terminal app?

It is maybe one of the most featureless terminals out there. Slow, poor color support, weird and frustrating permission interactions, limited font options, incomplete terminal emulation, etc.

It has improved a bit over the years and is generally fine if you just need to knock out a few commands. But I don't find it to be a very pleasurable experience compared to the alternatives. It feels very much like Apple implemented "just enough" and no more.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by fragmede »

linehedonist wrote: post #453
lholden wrote: post #369

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I ended up doing something similar a few years ago. Picked up a MacBook Pro M1 Max back when the M1 stuff was new to replace an aging Lenovo running Linux. I actually really loved my Lenovo + Linux, but the M1 was new and shiny and I desperately wanted better battery life. The hardware was great, but life on a Mac always felt a bit convoluted. Updating the OS was especially frustrating as a software developer because…

What’s missing in the terminal app?

For the tmux-ers, tmux integration. iTerm2 integrates really well with it, for both local and remote sessions.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by lholden »

abrookewood wrote: post #400
lholden wrote: post #369

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I ended up doing something similar a few years ago. Picked up a MacBook Pro M1 Max back when the M1 stuff was new to replace an aging Lenovo running Linux. I actually really loved my Lenovo + Linux, but the M1 was new and shiny and I desperately wanted better battery life. The hardware was great, but life on a Mac always felt a bit convoluted. Updating the OS was especially frustrating as a software developer because…

Pretty sure you can run Asahi on that? Might have been worth the effort instead of swapping out the machine as it's still pretty capable.

I didn't actually buy anything new for my transition back to Linux. I have a gaming system that had traditionally been running windows. It's a powerful system, but has always been a "toy" running Windows for playing games. Last year I moved it to Linux and have been incredibly happy with the move.

These days I am also now working from home full time, so it kinda hit me. "Why the hell am I trying to work from this MacBook when I have my really great gaming desktop that runs Linux now?" Moved my work over and have been incredibly happy.

I'll have to give the Fedora Asahi Remix a go on my MacBook Pro though. That's a great idea!

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