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Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Post by beeflet »

angoragoats wrote: post #346
beeflet wrote: post #300

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't contribute to my 401k or I liquidate whatever is in it as soon as feasible within the tax model. I think I have some index funds but I am going to try to put them into the DOW or gold or something.

I have some bad news for you about the Dow: the top 4 companies by market cap in the Dow are Nvidia, Microsoft, Apple, and Amazon.

I wasn't planning on investing in those. Aside from ideological reasons, I am pessimistic about their role in the economy.

I don't have access to the DOW directly, I would still have to choose individual stocks.

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Post by alyandon »

koolba wrote: post #383
magicalist wrote: post #145

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> to remove an app that allowed people to evade law enforcement. No, they continued to allow police location apps (Google maps will even tell you where they are). The language they added to the app store rules were very specific: "Apps may only display DUI checkpoints that are published by law enforcement agencies, and should never encourage drunk driving or other reckless behavior such as excessive speed." Whether o…

What purpose outside abetting in avoiding a DUI is there for publishing a live map of DUI checkpoints? I’m not questioning whether you should be able to do it. I’m really curious.

  What purpose outside abetting in avoiding a DUI is there for publishing a live map of DUI checkpoints?
That is easy to answer - letting law abiding citizens going about their personal business know that if they go through an area they are likely to be stopped and subjected to being searched by police without cause.

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Post by jay_kyburz »

akagusu wrote: post #533

Why this was flagged?

Yeah, I think there is a legitimate discussion here about walled gardens, tech, and the role it will play it will play in troubled times.

Legal is not always moral, and Apple has shown they will side with those in power, _not_ with those who own the tech.

If Apple is prepared to do this, what else are they prepared to snitch on your for.

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Post by EchoReflection »

myvoiceismypass wrote: post #401
JKCalhoun wrote: post #5

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Oh absolutely. Bondi demanded (!) they remove the app. Why would anyone think she won't demand they remove others?

Yep, anything DNC-labeled or affiliated will be next on the ban list. Truly scary stuff, that tens of millions of fellow Americans are actively cheering on.

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Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Post by Pxtl »

mariodiana wrote: post #46

Back in 2011, Apple removed apps that crowdsourced warnings about DUI checkpoints. It remains Apple's policy today. According to Grok, "In March 2011, four Democratic senators—Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), Harry Reid (D-Nev.), Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.), and Tom Udall (D-N.M.)—sent letters to Apple, Google, and Research in Motion (BlackBerry's parent company) urging the removal of such apps […]" So, we have precedent wher…

While it's still bad, you can see how it's worse when it's coming directly from a regulator top-down from the president, right?

Senators gave no individual direct control over regulation. They can influence appointments or influence legislation, which is still power backing the implied threat, but that's a much more roundabout threat than a single person with direct power to destroy your business.

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Post by yubblegum »

imglorp wrote: post #528
yubblegum wrote: post #458

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All that you said coupled with (snooping) edge AI is the future.

Sure, yes. The question is, will the corporations provide open access to the government for warrantless mass surveillance?

Well, we're talking not just about "corporations", we are talking about entities with more gross earnings than most countries' GDP, e.g. Apple is sitting on billions of dollars in cash. These guys have the tech, the data, and oceans of money. Heck, some of them even have space forces :)

Maybe in our (very near?) cyber punk future, it's not only goverments that we should be concerned about. After all, we have some measure of input regarding the goverment.

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Post by docmars »

ratelimitsteve wrote: post #506
docmars wrote: post #431

"Apple takes down illegal app criminals used to circumvent law enforcement" FTFY Fox :)

what's illegal about talking to people about what you saw in public?

Give me a break, don't play word games.

If you created an app that essentially doxed police and schemed ways to circumvent their ability to enforce the law, I'd hope you would get in trouble for that, especially if it compromised the safety of those you care about, don't you agree?

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Post by angoragoats »

beeflet wrote: post #531
angoragoats wrote: post #346

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have some bad news for you about the Dow: the top 4 companies by market cap in the Dow are Nvidia, Microsoft, Apple, and Amazon.

I wasn't planning on investing in those. Aside from ideological reasons, I am pessimistic about their role in the economy. I don't have access to the DOW directly, I would still have to choose individual stocks.

If you can buy individual stocks, then you absolutely do have access to the Dow in the form of a myriad of ETFs [1][2][3]. There are also numerous standard mutual funds which consist of all the companies in the DJIA. This is what I thought you were referring to when you said you'd invest in the Dow, hence my comment.

[1] https://investor.vanguard.com/investment-products/etfs/profi...

[2] https://investor.vanguard.com/investment-products/etfs/profi...

[3] https://investor.vanguard.com/investment-products/etfs/profi...

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