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OpenAI and Nvidia announce partnership to deploy 10GW of Nvidia systems

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Re: OpenAI and Nvidia announce partnership to deploy 10GW of Nvidia systems

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p1necone wrote: post #509
ComputerGuru wrote: post #371

Framing it in gigawatts is very interesting given the controversy about skyrocketing electric prices for residential and small business users as a result of datacenters over the past three years, primarily driven by AI growth. If, as another commenter notes, this 10GW is how much Chicago and NYC use combined , then we need to have a serious discussion about where this power is going to come from given the dismal stat…

Theoretically couldn't you use all the waste heat from the data center to generate electricity again, making the "actual" consumption of the data center much lower?

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Re: OpenAI and Nvidia announce partnership to deploy 10GW of Nvidia systems

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Post by antihipocrat »

reubenmorais wrote: post #424
elbasti wrote: post #403

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I work in the datacenter space. The power consumption of a data center is the "canonical" way to describe their size. Almost every component in a datacenter is upgradeable—in fact, the compute itself only has a lifespan of ~5 years—but the power requirements are basically locked-in. A 200MW data center will always be a 200MW data center, even though the flops it computes will increase. The fact that we use this unit…

All life is basically refining energy - standing up to entropy and temporarily winning the fight.

Yes, in a very local context it appears so, but net entropy across the system from life's activities is increased

Re: OpenAI and Nvidia announce partnership to deploy 10GW of Nvidia systems

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Post by inemesitaffia »

protocolture wrote: post #528
nixass wrote: post #519

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40W - is that ant datacenter? :)

Yeah, it was the companies pilot site, and everything about it is tiny. But it very quickly became the best place in town for carrier interconnection. So every carrier wanted in. Even when bigger local DC's went in, a lot of what they were doing was just landing virtual cross connects to the tiny one, because thats where everyone was.

You lost a M or K next to your W.

I still have an Edison bulb that consumes more power.

Re: OpenAI and Nvidia announce partnership to deploy 10GW of Nvidia systems

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Post by inemesitaffia »

littlecranky67 wrote: post #508
paxys wrote: post #365

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It can, but investors don't like that since it dilutes the value of their own shares. Which is why large companies usually do the opposite - share buybacks. Nvidia in fact bought $24 billion worth of its own shares in the first half of 2025, and plans to spend $60 billion more in buybacks in upcoming months.

Which investors also usually don't like. It says "we have all this cash, but we have no idea what to do with it so we are buying out own stock". While I'd expect a company to actually invest (into research, tech, growth etc.) with it's excess cash to make more money in the future.

Preferred by some to dividends.

Re: OpenAI and Nvidia announce partnership to deploy 10GW of Nvidia systems

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Post by SilverElfin »

agentultra wrote: post #298

Water is a critical resource in dwindling supplies in many water-stressed regions. These data centers have been known to suck up water supplies during active droughts. Is there anyone left at the EPA that gets a say in how we manage water for projects like this?

Water pollution bigger danger than water usage. Look up videos of people whose water changes color after a data center was built nearby.

Re: OpenAI and Nvidia announce partnership to deploy 10GW of Nvidia systems

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Post by roland35 »

inemesitaffia wrote: post #534
littlecranky67 wrote: post #508

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Which investors also usually don't like. It says "we have all this cash, but we have no idea what to do with it so we are buying out own stock". While I'd expect a company to actually invest (into research, tech, growth etc.) with it's excess cash to make more money in the future.

Preferred by some to dividends.

If stock buybacks cause the price to go up like it should in theory, that's less of a tax hit than dividends! I'll take it

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Post by protocolture »

inemesitaffia wrote: post #533
protocolture wrote: post #528

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, it was the companies pilot site, and everything about it is tiny. But it very quickly became the best place in town for carrier interconnection. So every carrier wanted in. Even when bigger local DC's went in, a lot of what they were doing was just landing virtual cross connects to the tiny one, because thats where everyone was.

You lost a M or K next to your W. I still have an Edison bulb that consumes more power.

Yep I see that haha.

Re: OpenAI and Nvidia announce partnership to deploy 10GW of Nvidia systems

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Post by ianks »

ComputerGuru wrote: post #371

Framing it in gigawatts is very interesting given the controversy about skyrocketing electric prices for residential and small business users as a result of datacenters over the past three years, primarily driven by AI growth. If, as another commenter notes, this 10GW is how much Chicago and NYC use combined , then we need to have a serious discussion about where this power is going to come from given the dismal stat…

To me, the question is less about “how do we make more energy” and more about “how do we make LLMs 100x more energy efficient.” Not saying this is an easy problem to solve, but it all seems like a stinky code smell.

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Post by kevinrineer »

typpilol wrote: post #484
aurareturn wrote: post #454

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You're downvoted but it's a real threat. Imagine hackers or state sponsored entities use one of these mega data centers to destroy a few cryptocurrencies.

They are nothing compared to BTC Asics

Comparing 100 duck sized horses to 1 horse sized duck. Or perhaps the amount of GPUs is in the ratio of 1,000:1.

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Post by fuzzfactor »

phkahler wrote: post #527
fuzzfactor wrote: post #510

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Maybe more like converting energy to data, as a more specific type of refinement.

Using energy to decrease the entropy of data. Or to organize and structure data.

I like that. Take random wild electrons and put them neatly into rows & columns where they can sit a spell.
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