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I bought the cheapest EV, a used Nissan Leaf

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Re: I bought the cheapest EV, a used Nissan Leaf

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> is usually ~€16/h Holy HELL that is crazy. I thought £5/hr in London was crazy.

Where are you parking for £5/hr in London? It’s more than that in Edinburgh these days

Ah yeah it's been a few years. Seems more like £9/HR in Mayfair etc

Out of zone 1 it can be done though I believe

Re: I bought the cheapest EV, a used Nissan Leaf

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Why is it so cheap to park your car and not others?

When you use a charging station, you pay for the power you consume, but not for "parking". This usually means you can't stay for a particularly long time.

Not in Trondheim. You pay one fee for the parking and another for the charging.

Re: I bought the cheapest EV, a used Nissan Leaf

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They tend to handle better than ICE cars due to the low centre of mass (also the fact the big mass - the battery - is firmly bolted to the frame and not wobbling around on rubber mounts like an engine does). These are both big advantages in terms of dynamics. Couple that with the much faster powertrain response and many options to do torque vectoring to each wheel (individual motors on sports models) and it's an easy…

People way overstate the "dynamics" advantages of EVs Yes EVs can keep their weight low, but it's a lot more weight to deal with. Yes EVs have excellent 0-60, but that's just because they have a great launch. Even doing a 5-60 pull removes the EV advantage. Starting from highway speeds? EVs start to look real slow. There are some good traits to EVs but, outside of launching hard in street car trim, performance is not…

You won't reach the limits of weight and handling of EVs when driving on public roads in ways that don't risk jail time.

Most people don't take their old Toyota to a race track, so they don't need their Leaf to beat a Lambo either.

The instant 0-30mph is the biggest advantage in day to day driving.

Re: I bought the cheapest EV, a used Nissan Leaf

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> is usually ~€16/h Holy HELL that is crazy. I thought £5/hr in London was crazy.

Try downtown Manhattan. As to the GP, it’s refreshing to hear about a reliable VW. Most folks I know, that own VWs, complain about reliability. But they still love their cars. I’ve never driven a VW, but, apparently, they handle quite well.

I had the VW e-golf a while, and it was a super car. Never had any problems with it. Sold it to buy a VW Multivan (I think it's marketed as California in the US?) which also was a great car, but it was over 10 years old so obviously had a few relatively minor issues, but all in all happy with it.

Re: I bought the cheapest EV, a used Nissan Leaf

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I paid over $50 USD for parking a bit over two hours in Cambridge Massachusetts when visiting MIT. Parking in the Boston area is atrocious.

Why should parking be easy or cheap in urban Cambridge? (For those unaware, MIT is just a short bridge across a river from Boston.) You should take the subway (metro) or bus. There are many non-driving options for the able-bodied.

I was driving from outside of Boston. Parking near subway was atrocious as well.

Re: I bought the cheapest EV, a used Nissan Leaf

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Small, cheap electric cars are the best! Fun to drive, easy to maintain. I own an VW eUP 2015 model which costed me €4000 used. I do not know if they where for sale outside of Norway (I only see them here!), but it is the perfect car for 95% of our mobility needs. I drive it to work every day (where I can charge it for free). I drive it to Oslo and can park/charge almost anywhere around town for really cheap, about €…

> is usually ~€16/h Holy HELL that is crazy. I thought £5/hr in London was crazy.

It's more of an incentive to walk, take public transport, and free cities as much as possible of cars.

Re: I bought the cheapest EV, a used Nissan Leaf

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I really like the AU tri-prong system for this - high-current plugs/sockets have a physically larger ground connector. This means you can put a low-current plug (small ground pin) into a high-current socket (large ground slot), but not the other way around. Only downside I've found so far is that you can't use a high-current-rated extension cord to plug a low-current appliance into a low-current socket.

We’re not talking about high current anything, we’re talking about standard mains electricity.

By “high” I mean plugs rated for 240v16A, which is higher than normal Australian sockets (usually 8A).

Re: I bought the cheapest EV, a used Nissan Leaf

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Small, cheap electric cars are the best! Fun to drive, easy to maintain. I own an VW eUP 2015 model which costed me €4000 used. I do not know if they where for sale outside of Norway (I only see them here!), but it is the perfect car for 95% of our mobility needs. I drive it to work every day (where I can charge it for free). I drive it to Oslo and can park/charge almost anywhere around town for really cheap, about €…

I thought I was crazy.

Every other month I drive 800km with my Opel Corsa-e, it takes me 10-12 hours and 4 charging stops.

This is 2 hours more than what my friends and relatives manage with their ICE car.

And since I have a child, I've been doing it in 2 days. Allows me to spend half a day packing, spend the other half in the car on the way to a hotel, and the next day I can be with the family for lunch. Kid is also not sitting tied to the seat a full day this way.

But I admit it is getting a bit much, and since I can't charge at home, I'm not getting the financial advantage either, so it's lots of travel time + hotel, and all the gain I get is that I love my car and don't want to switch back :D

Driving 950km with an e-up: I totally believe you that it's fine, but I'm sure I would be eyeing for a slight upgrade.

10% mora range isn't worth double the car price, probably. My personal benchmark is a 200km stretch on my way where I cannot reliably charge, and my current car is about the cheapest fully electric, that can do that. Even if I'm driving 90km/h behind trucks in the winter.

But good in you, nevertheless!

Ice car drivers love to make us feel miserable for the extra time and inconvenience, but it's a package deal, and overall the inconvenience is relatively easy to mitigate by smart planning, thinking outside the box.

And now I want an e-up for my wife :D

Re: I bought the cheapest EV, a used Nissan Leaf

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> I paid over $50 USD for parking a bit over two hours in Cambridge Massachusetts when visiting MIT. Parking in the Boston area is atrocious. The two are related. The whole point of charging for parking is to leverage scarcity to convince people to not make the problem worse and just find alternatives to driving to the doorstop that work well for them.

No, the pojnt of charging for parking, is for a company somewhere to make a fat, juicy profit. The company would prefer more people drive, and therefore, need to park.

Wow. Look at the downvotes. Yet almost every parking lot is privately owned, and many cities have even sold management of street parking to private companies.

Do people seriously think that these companies want to charge more, for environmental reasons? Of course not. They care only for profit.

https://news.wttw.com/2025/05/21/final-tally-chicago-taxpaye...

The parent says that the reason the price is high, is because someone is trying to up the price for environmental reasons. What proof have they for this? I'd really like a citation, because instead I see almost all parking being profit based.

If someone is saying it's for environmental reasons, likely they're lying to make more profit.

Re: I bought the cheapest EV, a used Nissan Leaf

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Last year, I got a found a great deal on a gently used Chevy Bolt EUV 2023 model with only about 8k miles on it for about $16k USD from Hertz. Granted, I had to fly out of state to pick it up, but it was a great experience all together. Learned quickly that this car is not a road tripping car as it took over an hour to charge to 80%.

However, it is an amazing commuter car. Being able to charge it at home is fantastic.

We already put 14k miles on it since we got it last year.

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