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Re: Anna's Archive: An Update from the Team

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Post by metalman »

jacquesm wrote: post #318
aidenn0 wrote: post #304

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It's complicated. Many years ago, I was involved in a movie release group. Pretty much everybody in that group owned more VHSs/DVDs than the typical person. This is probably not surprising, since the time and effort one needs to put into that is rather large. Those who only downloaded were more of a mixed bag; some of them were not in the US and might not be able to see a domestic release of the movies any time soon.…

I spent a small fortune on a record collection. Then the record format was abandoned and it was all CDs. I spent a small fortune re-buying that same record collection, insofar as the records were even available as CDs. Then we went all digital (yes, I know CDs were already digital) and it became MP3s. So I ripped my CD collection and assigned them to a box in my attic. I will not be spending money on spotify or whate…

It's simple, when I can, insure, return, re sell or give away digital "property",that exists on an internationaly standardised format, then I might buy some. Also anything produced with public funding can not be copy righted or patented, there are oceans of private money, they can build there own private research entities and keep all the secrets they want, right. oh!, but wait!....china

Re: Anna's Archive: An Update from the Team

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Post by pilimi_anna »

jauntywundrkind wrote: post #62
thorn wrote: post #44

Kudos to the team behind this project! It looks like they have improved UI in last year. The crucial problem right now is to remain accessible or to survive. I have no idea how much effort is being put into it. I wonder is it possible to remain afloat despite all efforts to take them down?

There was a pretty major UI update in the past 2-5 days-ish. Apologies for the minor grumble, but on mobile I used to be able to browse search results much more effectively; the new design only fits ~4-5 results on a screen.

Search settings => Display => List (compact)

Re: Anna's Archive: An Update from the Team

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Post by computerdork »

sussmannbaka wrote: post #435
computerdork wrote: post #202

Know am going to be downvoted into oblivion, but as a composer, can see it from the side of creators. Yeah, making their products free is starving these industries. For instance, in music, there is already very little money in music (think about how many musicians you personally know who can make a living off of music, besides being a music teacher). And, the music industry is still not even the same size as it was i…

The devaluation happened through streaming services. Instead of spending dozens of dollars on subscriptions, BitTorrent and last.fm enables me to find what I like and spend the money on Bandcamp instead where it actually reaches the artist I am buying from. I can just get a Spotify subscription instead though, if you insist.

Yeah, streaming does continue to keep music prices low, but for us who followed the music industry, the major damage to pricing happened 25 years ago. This was when p2p file sharing was at its height, and the music industry was in a tail spin and revenue was nose diving. Then the iTunes store came out and allowed customers to be single songs for a dollar (instead of the whole album). This was a necessary compromise the music industry had to do because young people weren't buying music any more. This sealed the deal and the end of it, the music industry was about half the size it was only a few years ago.

Yeah, Spotify does screw musicians really horribly. Don't know what the solution is, but was talking with someone else here, and maybe piracy is not a big factor with the music industry anymore. With the rise of DAW's so that making music is really easy, and youtube as a primary source to market music, piracy really isn't as big a deal. This sounds reasonable to me (not great state of things, but not bad).

Re: Anna's Archive: An Update from the Team

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Post by computerdork »

troupo wrote: post #427
computerdork wrote: post #371

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I do agree that youtube has made it much easier to self-promote, and that today's model has replaced the old one and is doing decently. Still, the at least by the numbers, the music industry is still smaller than it used to be. Unfortunately, money is a powerful resource, and it's not like the music industry took everything and completely screwed over the musicians. They helped struggling musicians survive, giving th…

> I do agree that youtube has made it much easier to self-promote And Spotify. And Apple Music, to an extent. And even SoundCloud. > They helped struggling musicians survive, giving them a chance to make it, Survivorship bias. You're completely ignoring the artists that never got the attention of distributors, or got immediately dropped, or dropped after the first disappointing (by studio standards) sales, or screwed…

Don't disagree, but am realizing, it's easy to say anything (on my side too) without any proof either way. Yeah, have to admit, don't have any numbers on the total number of artist that are supported by music labels, or the total amount of money they give out. The only numbers I have are that the music industry's revenue crashed in the 2000's, down to nearly half, and only recently has it recovered and is near what it was it its peak in the 90's (but this is without inflation). To me at least, this means the amount of money in the industry has to give out is much lower.

Although yeah, you do have a point that it doesn't take as much money to distribute music. That is definitely a cost savings for musicians and labels (and, as you probably know, DAW's and relatively cheap, high-quality recording equipment have been huge too). Still, not sure how big an effect these are though.

And for me, yeah, can't have surviorship bias, because I've been struggling myself for years to make a living, haha :) But part of it is my fault, am trying to be a composer, and this is one of the worst jobs in the music industry to make money in.

But yeah, do agree that it's well known that labels have screwed over tons of musicians over the past 100 years. Still, at the same time, it's probably a bell curve in terms of those that get screwed vs those that are supported and nurtured. And to me at least, the more money in the system, the more opportunities for good labels to support musicians.

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Post by [deleted] »

dirkg wrote: post #449

Meta illegally scraped 80TB of data from Anna's archive, Libgen, Zlib etc. I'm sure other tech giants did too. Without paying them a cent, costing these projects $$$ in bandwidth/hosting etc. when I hear people complain about these projects it just sounds like hypocrisy.

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Post by xlbuttplug2 »

aitchnyu wrote: post #408
xlbuttplug2 wrote: post #217

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Might need more than a few as the price would tank if his wallets came out of dormancy.

Superman will freak out the world if he kills so he doesnt. Does Satoshi want to avoid freaking out the BC holders?

In this particular case, it would be like sending a cheque to somebody knowing it would bounce.

Re: Anna's Archive: An Update from the Team

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Post by computerdork »

paradox460 wrote: post #391
troupo wrote: post #269

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Music got commoditized. In the 90s the good bands got lucky that their distributors picked them up and promoted them etc. You just don't remember the amount of crap that was on at any given point in time. Today you have instant access to millions of songs around the world in every genre imaginable: https://everynoise.com/ And not just to the whatever few records your local store carried, or what the Big Four paid the…

Always been the case. I have a late boomer early Gen x friend, who will insist that music was better back in the day, and that everyone was listening to Zeppelin and such, and nothing else. You can pull up the billboard charts for any year he waxes about and read off the top n, and rarely if ever find a track from the bands he claimed "everyone listened to." Survivorship bias is and always has been real. If you don't…

Don't disagree with that survivorship bias isn't real, everyone thinks the music of their time was the best. Still it's not the only factor at play here, because the music industry was in crisis in the early 2000's and its revenue dropped in half. That is a huge drop, and the less money in the industry, the smaller the pie that goes towards all types of projects, from Tubthumping to Smashing Pumpkin's Rocket.

But do agree that most of the 90's was still pop music (just looked at through the top 100, forgot about most of those groups:)

Re: Anna's Archive: An Update from the Team

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Post by computerdork »

troupo wrote: post #269
computerdork wrote: post #202

Know am going to be downvoted into oblivion, but as a composer, can see it from the side of creators. Yeah, making their products free is starving these industries. For instance, in music, there is already very little money in music (think about how many musicians you personally know who can make a living off of music, besides being a music teacher). And, the music industry is still not even the same size as it was i…

Music got commoditized. In the 90s the good bands got lucky that their distributors picked them up and promoted them etc. You just don't remember the amount of crap that was on at any given point in time. Today you have instant access to millions of songs around the world in every genre imaginable: https://everynoise.com/ And not just to the whatever few records your local store carried, or what the Big Four paid the…

Btw, finally checked out the Every noise at once site, wow, awesome! Great way to find new music!

Re: Anna's Archive: An Update from the Team

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Post by cobbzilla »

therealcamino wrote: post #522
cobbzilla wrote: post #224

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It may be a minority, but not all authors share your view. Paulo Coelho [1] says “a person who does not share is not only selfish, but bitter and alone”. Sorry gotta say it, your tone matches. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulo_Coelho

According to this link, Paulo Coelho has a net worth of over $500 million and didn't get there by giving away books, so perhaps your example is not well-chosen. https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/how-rich-are-jk-rowling-jame...

I’m not so sure about that.

“In part, he puts this success down to BitTorrent, as he saw a huge increase in sales when his books appeared on sites such as The Pirate Bay.” [1]

The fact that people wanted to buy his books, when they could have had them for free, does not negate his or anyone else’s beliefs.

[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20140422024114/https://torrentfr...

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