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you're doing a lot of imagining all over this thread. none of it is really based in any kind of objective reality.
and you raged at one of your own thinking he was speaking ill of adhd lol
ADHD drug treatment and risk of negative events and outcomes
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As it is with the other examples. So if it can't be measured it doesn't exist? Is this the dead spirit of Robert McNamara?
>So if it can't be measured it doesn't exist? Nah. If its vague and arbitrary maybe it should be the basis of a medical condition
Then I guess it's a good thing you're not a doctor, because that's life -- trying to make the best of subjective/incomplete information
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Does fibromyalgia exist? Tension headaches? What about chronic fatigue or irritable bowel syndrome? How are they diagnosed?
Pain is a symptom of all those diseases, which is why is said "Pain is a symptom not a disease"
Yet the threshold is vague and arbitrary
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Does fibromyalgia exist? Tension headaches? What about chronic fatigue or irritable bowel syndrome? How are they diagnosed?
Whats that got to do with clumsiness and forgetfulness being a disease?
They are all subjective, arbitrary, "not observable", "in the mind", "not objective"
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All abuse is bad. Some abuses are worse than others. What abuse are they seeing with adderall? What I hear in casual conversations is that people are abusing it to learn things. Is that what the DEA was seeing too?
Yes, it is most commonly used a study drug. It is a strong stimulant (more like cocaine than like coffee) and potentially addictive so potentially dangerous and requires medical supervision. it is a formulation of amphetamine.
It can't be as appealing and addictive as cocaine but most commonly be abused as a study drug and have recreational use be much less common.
It would never happen. So it must be much less appealing than cocaine.
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#536The irony about getting treatment for ADHD is that medical providers make it very hard to get the proper medication and treatment. People with ADHD are horrible at following through and handle rejection poorly. So the worse the ADHD is, the less likely somebody will be able to actually get treatment for it. A lot of people suffer because doctors fear losing their license like so many did during the pain pill debacle.…
> Welbutrin (which works poorly, if at all)
This depends on the person. ADHD medication by itself doesn't work nearly as well for me as ADHD medication+Wellbutrin.
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This doesn't even account for the perma-drama due to the artificial shortage generated by the DEA. Getting your prescription filled, if you manage to wrangle one, often requires hours of calling around which pharmacy can fill said prescription. And you get to do that every months. And you can't get a prescription earlier, you have to wait a full month. So, essentially: Right when you're forced off your medication tha…
You maybe know this already, but there are a couple sites that will handle the calling around for you. It is kind of ridiculous I spend more on the site than on the actual meds, but I just don't see another way for now.
I did not know this indeed. But, of course, that means signing up and spreading your medical info even further. (Plus, in some cases, more money)
For folks who are also looking, the search term "adhd meds call around service" seems to work. I'd list URLs, but I haven't used any and don't want to endorse.