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Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by deaddodo »

dylan604 wrote: post #524
deaddodo wrote: post #509

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Linux runs perfectly fine on most of the Surfaces: https://github.com/linux-surface/linux-surface/wiki/Supporte... There's the usual asterisk here or there, as with most laptops; but, outside of some golden devices, it's about on par with most.

Great, but I'm not looking to run Linux either. You've completely answered by not answering the actual question though. Is it actually a cool device?

You specifically stated "since it runs Windows, I will never use it" and I addressed that point. If your qualifier is "runs MacOS/iOS", then your following question is moot for every non-Apple device.

Either way, no one can answer your subjective opinion-based query. Go test it out at the dozens of kiosks in any city in a Western nation (or, barring that, watch a youtube video) and judge for yourself.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by camel_Snake »

hbn wrote: post #495
827a wrote: post #163

My deepest concern at this time isn't that AI eventually gets written down to nothing; because I don't think it will. Its that these companies are so scared of being out-competed by an AI-first competitor that they're willing to make deep sacrifices to their core businesses just to effectively virtue signal that they're AI first and unable to be out-competed. It is deeply concerning because all things point to realit…

Do I have any fellow Duolingo users here? I know they've gotten shit for years, it's not gonna make you fluent, etc etc But I've defended them because it's at the very least a good starting point and something to keep you consistent every day. As long as you're trying to be mindful about learning, I've found it to be a great tool to assist in improving my Spanish. That is until a month or 2 ago where they completely…

going to shout-out ClozeMaster here since I first found out about it on hacker news. Always hated duolingo - it's the gamification triggered to many alarm bells to me.

Clozemaster is much more rudimentary but I do like how they use AI - there's a single button that gives you an AI grammatical summary of the translation and calls out any idioms or grammatical conventions in the target language compared to your native one.

Bought the lifetime license but it's free to use, you just get a limited amount of flash cards a day. If you wait until christmas there's generally a big discount on the lifetime license.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by pjerem »

xnyan wrote: post #508
rustystump wrote: post #461

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Idk i can think of a long list of awful stuff coming out of ms that is modern. They put fing ads in an os among other atrocities. I put them behind meta on the evilness meter but i think google is less evil which speaks volumes. The only side of ms that i have any love for is xbox but that is also waning with all the studio acquisitions.

Don’t Apple and Ubuntu also advertise products in their OS also?

Apple barely does it and only for their products. I agree with you that that’s already too much and too annoying but that’s an order of magnitude less than Microsoft who advertise their products pretty aggressively AND ALSO are advertising for whoever gave them money too.

Ubuntu I didn’t use it for years, there are tons of other distributions that I prefer now but last time I checked, there was a removable default shortcut to amazon. That’s an awful symbol, if you ask me, to associate Ubuntu and its meaning to Amazon but it’s nothing when compared to Apple or Microsoft (dare I say Google) behaviors.

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Post by dylan604 »

deaddodo wrote: post #531
dylan604 wrote: post #524

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Great, but I'm not looking to run Linux either. You've completely answered by not answering the actual question though. Is it actually a cool device?

You specifically stated "since it runs Windows, I will never use it" and I addressed that point. If your qualifier is "runs MacOS/iOS", then your following question is moot for every non-Apple device. Either way, no one can answer your subjective opinion-based query. Go test it out at the dozens of kiosks in any city in a Western nation (or, barring that, watch a youtube video) and judge for yourself.

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Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by BlueTemplar »

hnlmorg wrote: post #328
sunshine-o wrote: post #300

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For hosting and publishing your code maybe. But the power of Github is more the social platform and collaboration at global scale. In that sense the only mature alternative I know is Radicle - https://radicle.xyz/

This is what people forget about GitHub. Its popularity isn't because it has the best tools on the market. It is popular because of the network effect. It's the social network of developer tooling. I don't really want to be using a Microsoft product but I use github for the same reason I use Linkedin: because it benefits my career to be visible on these social networks.

And this is a big part of the reason why it's pretty much a violation of professional deontology to use LinkedIn, GitHub (and Discord).

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by high_na_euv »

meindnoch wrote: post #404
pjmlp wrote: post #84

I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…

Microsoft being the cool guys? The cool guys ? Mwuhahahhaa. This gave me the good belly laugh I needed. For the last 25 years, Microsoft was known for: - being the no. 1 enemy of free software - shipping the worst web browser in existence, despite 80%+ market share - making corrupt deals with governments around the world to tie them to their office software suite - creating vendor-locked proprietary extensions to kil…

>For the last 25 years, Microsoft was known for:

That was 10 years ago

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Post by petepete »

Wololooo wrote: post #525
xnyan wrote: post #508

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Don’t Apple and Ubuntu also advertise products in their OS also?

I have yet to see a single ad on either the menus on Ubuntu or in OSX. Care to elaborate on what you mean by that?

A few times over the years Ubuntu included Amazon ads in the OS. Each time, afaik, the community reacted angrily and it didn't last.

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Post by scarface_74 »

pjmlp wrote: post #84

I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…

I’ve been in the industry for 30 years professionally and 10 years as hobbyist who paid as much attention to the industry as one could before the internet in the 80s early 90s including lying as a 9th grader pretending to be a big spender to get a free subscription to MacWeek and PCWeek.

At no point in time was Microsoft one of the cool guys.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by martin-t »

rjbwork wrote: post #486
martin-t wrote: post #400

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I've heard this story so many times. 1) A company starts by serving a real customer need, is driven by the people doing real (engineers, designers, mechanics, etc.). 2) The company gets large. The hierarchy gets deeper, decisions are made by people removed from the actual work. 3) The company either a) drives away all the people who actually enjoy quality work and stagnates/devolves b) or is bought by a large corpora…

>How come people will vehemently defend democracy as the only just system of governance at the nation state level but are perfectly OK with dictatorship at the company level? Funny you should ask this. A co-worker was unironically glazing monarchies and suggested some books to me when we were drinking at dinner Friday. I was disgusted, tbh. But do not underestimate the desire of people to be ruled and told how to thi…

When I encounter this, it's usually a belief that a strong and implicitly good leader is needed so that he can somehow remove/punish all the bad people.

What the people don't get is that:

- Truly good people are incredibly rare. - Those who are prone to abusing power will only show their true colors when actually given power. - Power corrupts, everyone has head this. But it also attracts people who are corrupt in the first place. And of course, they will lie and pretend to be good to get that power. - What about succession? Even if their fav leader was actually good and was so "pure" he fathered (most such promoters of this assume a man) only good children, each generation the amount of his "good genes" they'd have would halve (assuming no Habsburgcest).

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IMO the cause is people knowing they are largely powerless in the grand scheme of things (barring self-sacrifice and violence which they are increasingly indoctrinated against) but this learned helplessness is so internalized they can't conceive of a better solution than giving even more of their power away.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by fkyoureadthedoc »

worik wrote: post #386
fkyoureadthedoc wrote: post #242

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> but I'd say few tech people have been excited about Apple otherwise lately, as product or platform And probably fewer still consider switching to the alternatives. Apple is, for better or worse, usually the least bad option.

No. Linux is better. That worm has turned, at least five years ago

When someone makes a SteamOS level "just works" distro for desktop / gaming I'll probably happily switch
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