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We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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Re: We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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A sufficiently advanced ai that tricks humans would be a human life itself…

one day, some sick mind will do a study with a baby who is only exposed to AI without any real human contact

Ted Chiang (sci fi author: Exhalation, Stories of Your Life - basis for Arrival) has a short story about this. Darcy’s Patent Automatic Nanny

Re: We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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> Even in a world brimming with easy distractions—TikTok, Pornhub, Candy Crush, Sudoku—people still manage to meet for drinks, work out at the gym, go on dates, muddle through real life. They actually don't. Everything from dating and fitness to manufacturing and politics is in decline in activities, and more so in effect and understanding. You can't convince (enough) people anymore that it is even important as many…

Okay doomer

Re: We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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This doesn't match my experience. In fact one thing I noticed living in Japan is how much more willing people are to spend money to meet up. Lots of events costs 3000-7000 yen. Clubs and bar have a cover charge. People will organize parties where they rent a bar and tell their friends it's 4000 yen each (about $27 currently but was closer to $40) in the past. They'll even have house parties and tell everyone to pitch…

Out of all developed nations, Japan is probably the one least affected by housing pricing in the world seeing as though Japanese housing depreciates rather than appreciates over time. Rent prices in America are a staggering 177.4% more expensive than Japan[1]. Ever increasing house prices, caused by the underlying power imbalance between capital and labour, is the root of all evil in the Anglosphere. It will not stop…

Who would have thought that when you don't artificially limit housing supply people can actually afford it!

Lots of examples in Latam as well.

Re: We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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They go unenforced unless your party looks like a pack of belligerent teenagers. I drink in public all the time. Cops don’t like doing paperwork unless their hand is forced.

"Why take the risk?" You end up on video for drunkenness with police, and assuming they don't shoot you or beat the fuck out of you, the video still ends up on the internet. The next day at work, you quickly get called in to talk to your manager and HR, and now you have to find a new job. Time to find a new job! And in this market? Not worth the risk. Now companies are searching for New Hires on social media, and gue…

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Re: We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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Bullshit. Most people can afford grabbing a beer in a supermarket and going to the park. They just choose not to. I think the real change is that nowadays it's just easier and more practical NOT to maintain friendships. Yes, it's lonely, but it's more efficient.

Drinking outdoors (let alone at a public park) is just not a thing outside Europe.

My man it's a thing in like most of asia and latin america, how can you be so confident yet so wrong at the same time.

Re: We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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Library funding is being slashed in the US and actively attacked by right wing fundamentalist who view them as “woke socialism”

They are. The problem is that people have a problem with that.

The problem is the people who don't like that policy debating it on social media isolated in filter bubbles owned by the rich who benefit from such isolation

We're the adults now but prefer the responsibility of kids still

Anyway, gonna go watch the new Marvel joint.

Re: We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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> when cell phones were a vehicle for organizing the evening or weekend's plans Still are! As I post this we're establishing where we meet for beers and at what time on my whatsapp friends group. Ofc, we're old geezers too.

Don't worry me and my friends still do this as well and we are 20-30. I am extremely lucky though, living by myself in the capital city of my country makes it very easy to go out and do stuff

We old geezers are all married, it’s 50% each sex at this table :)

Re: We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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Where it is disallowed? Other then nordic with prohibition?

Ireland. https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/justice/criminal-law/c... Edit: Wikipedia page on drinking in public: "In some countries, such as Norway,[1] Poland,[2] India and Sri Lanka[3][non-tertiary source needed], some states in the United States,[4] as well as Muslim-majority countries where alcohol is legal, public drinking is almost universally condemned or outlawed, while in other countries, such as Denmark,…

I find Poland suspicious. I dunno about the law, but Polish of all ages drink outside and don't think twice about it. I did it there too.

Re: We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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First, young people make a lot more than they did 10 years ago (both nominally and inflation adjusted). Second, no it does not cost 5x as much, closer to 15-20% more based on all the data I could find. Anecdotally in San Francisco, NYC, and Austin it is maybe 2x more at the most expensive places. EDIT: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LEU0252882200Q

This would be more convincing if you quoted data. Nothing on FRED suggests you're correct.

Here's men 16-24 showing 20% increase after CPI adjustment

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LEU0252882200Q

Re: We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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> I complained that I think it's sad that a lot of young people don't just see "going over to friends' houses to hang out" as a primary option Young people don't have space on their houses.

Again, I have to chuckle when I hear these excuses. When I was young in mid 90s we would all pile in to someone's 400 square foot studio apartment. I'm not blaming young people today for not seeing this as an option. But it is the case that lots of folks have/had a lot less space and didn't see that as any barrier to hanging out.

So many excuses. You don't even need someone with an apartment. Just pick an out of the way location and converge. Went to many a party back in the day out on an untraveled road. We didn't even have mobile phones to coordinate.
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