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Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by jcon321 »

lemoncookiechip wrote: post #497
Larrikin wrote: post #224

If illegal immigration is such a problem, why not fine businesses 5x salary for using the labor, for as long as it was used? There are a lot of systems in place to verify working status at this point. It eliminates any incentive to hire this cheaper labor willing to work for lower wages. The people coming will be coming for a variety of reasons but it won't be to take the jobs of the uneducated Americans

Because this isn't about that. This is about having a perceived enemy that only you can fight. If it wasn't immigrants (legal or illegal), it would be a different group, within or outside of your borders. It's fascism 101.

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Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by major505 »

Larrikin wrote: post #224

If illegal immigration is such a problem, why not fine businesses 5x salary for using the labor, for as long as it was used? There are a lot of systems in place to verify working status at this point. It eliminates any incentive to hire this cheaper labor willing to work for lower wages. The people coming will be coming for a variety of reasons but it won't be to take the jobs of the uneducated Americans

There are consequences for business owners, but because of complicity of govermnet in this states, it still worth the risk to run big operation on the back of illegal imigrants in semi servitude status.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by snarf21 »

lemoncookiechip wrote: post #497
Larrikin wrote: post #224

If illegal immigration is such a problem, why not fine businesses 5x salary for using the labor, for as long as it was used? There are a lot of systems in place to verify working status at this point. It eliminates any incentive to hire this cheaper labor willing to work for lower wages. The people coming will be coming for a variety of reasons but it won't be to take the jobs of the uneducated Americans

Because this isn't about that. This is about having a perceived enemy that only you can fight. If it wasn't immigrants (legal or illegal), it would be a different group, within or outside of your borders. It's fascism 101.

Yeah, the whole platform is about Othering. The greatest trick the rich ever pulled was convincing the middle class that the poor are the cause of all their problems.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by major505 »

jxjnskkzxxhx wrote: post #223

There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state. The other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people.

yeah. A good quote from Adama, but that only applies to the US. In many places around the world the police and military are the same.

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Post by typeofhuman »

ivape wrote: post #150
bix6 wrote: post #49

This is terrifying and unconscionable. Hard to believe this is the USA today. I don’t really see this de-escalating given the ongoing rhetoric but I hope I’m wrong.

It’s interesting ICE raided the outside of a Home Depot. Like, of all the immigrants, the immigrants that stand outside of Home Depot do the hardest physical labor. There’s no heart to what’s going on.

Where's you heart for the hard working black men who are disproportionately impacted by illegal immigration?

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Post by Symmetry »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #233
Larrikin wrote: post #224

If illegal immigration is such a problem, why not fine businesses 5x salary for using the labor, for as long as it was used? There are a lot of systems in place to verify working status at this point. It eliminates any incentive to hire this cheaper labor willing to work for lower wages. The people coming will be coming for a variety of reasons but it won't be to take the jobs of the uneducated Americans

This is what Canada mostly does and it’s super effective, the problem is that the people who employ illegal immigrants: farmers, construction contractors, hotel owners, etc…belong to the same party pushing against illegal immigration, they would basically be punishing themselves, so it isn’t going to happen.

I think the real reason is that Trump feels that the illegal immigration issue generates votes for him so actually solving it is the last thing he wants to do.

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Post by dmix »

conartist6 wrote: post #517
vixen99 wrote: post #511

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can the incident (with video evidence) you describe not potentially result in criminal charges? Why hold your breath? Surely there are countless people to act on that.

What would be the point? There's almost nothing they could do that would be against the law if they're just given a pre-emptive pardon. They could put up an arena with citizens vs lions as long as it pleases Donald...

Only federal charges can be pardoned by the executive branch

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by regularjack »

sam345 wrote: post #515
internet_points wrote: post #409

https://bsky.app/profile/iwillnotbesilenced.bsky.social/post... The galaxy is watching.

So what is the complaint that tear gas was used? It's used all the time it's a normal crowd control measure. The galaxy is watching? Please.

I don't think people sitting in traffic qualify as a crowd that needs control.
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