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Re: Material 3 Expressive

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Post by iammrpayments »

jamalaramala wrote: post #191

Oh my god, this is ugly as fuck. It reminds me a study about the perception of beauty among students of arts. Before they start their studies, their perception of beauty is similar to everyone's. But as they go through their course, their perception starts to shift. What they see as "beautiful" doesn't match the perception of others. They learn what "skeuomorphism" is, and suddenly everything must be flat and undiffe…

I don’t think is ugly, it is just that it feels like every trendy company webpage copied and pasted the same design:

http://shopify.com/ https://tailwindcss.com/

Re: Material 3 Expressive

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Post by iammrpayments »

_fat_santa wrote: post #188
dgimla20 wrote: post #37

Material Design v1 cracked it. It was simple to implement, simple to understand and simple to use. Minimal overheads with a clear content-first approach. "It's time to move beyond “clean” and “boring” designs to create interfaces that connect with people on an emotional level." I don't want websites and apps to connect with me on an emotional level. I want to turn my phone/computer on, use the app/program to achieve…

> I don't want websites and apps to connect with me on an emotional level. I want to turn my phone/computer on, use the app/program to achieve what I'm trying to do, and turn it off again Building a B2B SaaS app one of the most refreshing thoughts I've had about it was: "people don't like using my app". The software I'm building nobody wants to use, but they have to use it for their work. Given that I try my hardest…

I work with Shopify apps, and we’re currently struggling with this because they enforce their design system to grant you a “Built for Shopify” badge that boosts trusts and listing rankings.

The problem is that to follow their design system, you have to turn a self explaining button into a full page with useless text, because they think your homepage should have an onboarding description to make users “excited to use your app”.

This is so company centric, no one will ever be excited to use your app, they just want to solve their problem and leave as fast as possible.

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Post by miunau »

amluto wrote: post #502
overfeed wrote: post #491

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> No, it’s not, because it floats over the actual content, which means that the user can neither see nor interact with the content under it. 1. How narrow is your screen? The FAB is typically used over scrollable full-width list items. 2. Using a design system does not release the app author from their UX duties, like making sure the UI works as best as possible.

It’s remarkably common for some floating UI element to obscure the bottom portion of something scrollable. You can’t work around this by scrolling because, if the region in question is on the screen at all, it’s at the bottom. Even Mobile Safari messes this up on occasion — sometimes the URL bar at the bottom obscures the bottom of a page, and, while one can temporarily reveal it by dragging up, the content rubber-ba…

This is solved by using dvh (or svh) instead of 100% for height in the CSS.

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Post by codethief »

superb_dev wrote: post #448
Lammy wrote: post #445

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> However, this article has a lot of "Pepsi Logo" vibes So wildly successful that we're all still talking about it even though they don't even use that logo any more?

I'm not sure we're talking about it because it was successful, I think we're talking about it because the design document for it was insane: https://www.goldennumber.net/wp-content/uploads/pepsi-arnell...

Oh wow. To everyone who, like me, hadn't seen the document before: You might wanna sit down before this one.

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Post by LoganDark »

dmix wrote: post #512
formerly_proven wrote: post #475

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> it's usually not overly disruptive (new macOS settings aside). The core functionality and layouts remain more or less the same ios 18 photos app?

Similar to Settings app I think the Photos app was because they rewrote it in Swift.

I hope the rewrite will eventually allow me to tell it to stop pausing sync for "optimizing system performance". Every time I find that my photos have not uploaded despite the phone being locked on the charger for hours it is because of Optimizing System Performance. What a joke.

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Post by montag »

dickiedyce wrote: post #204

From the blurb: "Expressive design makes you feel something. It inspires emotion..." Yep, sea-sickness, quesyness, nausea, and a growing desire park the DeLorean back in 2010 or skip to 2035. The whole 'emotion' thing = funky palettes is irritating beyond measure: the next 2 years of websites will be like working inside a TV advert for Jaguar.

When I was in design school, the dean roasted me for slapping cartoon flowers on a brochure for a female audience. It was hackneyed in retrospect. Kinda like this

Re: Material 3 Expressive

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Post by LoganDark »

This is just an attempt to copy iOS, in my opinion. Even the website is - the way your cursor is no longer an arrow but just a circle that molds to the shape of nearby buttons is a (very badly executed, at least on this website) clear attempt to copy iPadOS.

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Post by wolpoli »

According to the page, with M3 Expressive, Time to first fixation is .65s for 18-24 year old, 0.93s for 25-45 year old, and 0.81s 45+ year. It doesn't make intuitive sense that 45+ year old are now faster than their younger group.

Re: Material 3 Expressive

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Post by mminer237 »

agos wrote: post #510
thewebguyd wrote: post #469

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> And toggled / disabled states. With mobile’s lack of hover, it’s often a game of trial and error to figure out what’s even interactable. The toggle switch is one of the worst UI conventions to come out of mobile IMO and I get irrationally irate when I see it in desktop UIs with a mouse and keyboard. A simple checkbox would have done just fine, we've those since forever, and they clearly convey either an on or off s…

I get your point but they’re all the same: colored/saturated: on. White/grey: off

Material v2 massively desaturated all colors though. On my phone it's technically a little purple but essentially light gray is on and darker gray is off.

https://i.imgur.com/QiCEguh.png

Re: Material 3 Expressive

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Post by indemnity »

LoganDark wrote: post #535
dmix wrote: post #512

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Similar to Settings app I think the Photos app was because they rewrote it in Swift.

I hope the rewrite will eventually allow me to tell it to stop pausing sync for "optimizing system performance". Every time I find that my photos have not uploaded despite the phone being locked on the charger for hours it is because of Optimizing System Performance. What a joke.

Yep. One of my top annoyances. I don’t pay for top tier internet to wait hours for ten goddamn photos I just took to upload to the cloud so my Mac Photos library can see it.
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