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Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by ndsipa_pomu »

jmward01 wrote: post #484
ndsipa_pomu wrote: post #449

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bold of you to assume that voting will be able to change anything - will future votes not be rampant with corrupt practices? What controls will still be in place to ensure that?

Use it or loose it. Voter fraud has never been an issue, it has been voter disenfranchisement that has been the biggest problem. It is very likely that elections going forward will see that trend rise dramatically all while keeping people, incorrectly, focused on fraud. Either way, don't give up. Vote. Get others to vote. Help them get over the hurdles placed in front of them to block their voting. It is possible to…

I don't disagree, but as a Brit I can't really help. It just looks very worrying from this side of the pond and I hope you can rescue your country.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by tomhow »

siilats wrote: post #479
bhouston wrote: post #3

The US is so weird right now. You have a President who is ordering the defunding of tons of groups (universities, media, aid, institutes) while not clearly having that authority and often doing so for what he views as ideological crimes. Also arresting and trying to deport people for things that are not clearly crimes (newspaper op-eds, etc) and without due process. Very strange times. Right now I have some faith the…

The anti trump money groups have infiltrated HN or you really think the government today should be spending money on CBS?

Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents, and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by Terr_ »

mrguyorama wrote: post #515
MurkyLabs wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't it crazy that the supposed 'biased media' directly targets PBS who I know from watching children's shows as well as NOVA (it's been going for 51 seasons). These shows don't scream biased to me, they scream educational.

You must understand, the culture war types are so absurdly radical that BEN SHAPIRO's adult cartoon was considered "woke" because it had a gay character who was the butt of every joke, and that was not harsh enough to satisfy them . They do not want LGBTQ people to be acknowledged in any way, or be allowed to exist. They would ban the Golden Girls if they could. They WILL try.

> so absurdly radical that BEN SHAPIRO's adult cartoon was considered "woke" because it had a gay character who was the butt of every joke

So I was curious and went searching, and I assume you mean the animated "Chip Chilla" series which has drawn some unflattering comparisons with Bluey.

However I didn't find that particular character or critique, maybe somebody else will have better luck.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by Nifty3929 »

sva_ wrote: post #298
hadrien01 wrote: post #2

I suppose this is in response to this executive order: ENDING TAXPAYER SUBSIDIZATION OF BIASED MEDIA https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/05/endi... I would add that PBS has this to say about public media funding: > The U.S. is almost literally off the chart for how little we allocate towards our public media. At the federal level, it comes out to a little over $1.50 per person per year. Compare that…

What a poor example. As a German, we are forced to pay much more than that, about 220 euro annually. Only a small percentage actually goes into news and such, most are entertainment programs. I don't know anyone who is younger/my age that is in favor of it or consumes it. It is basically the boomers forcing us to subsidize their shitty crime shows. Annually they collect about 9 billion euro, no surprise the author of…

Everybody loves communism except those who've actually experienced it.

My wife and I were visiting a Western European country and watching the street from our balcony. Outside there was a parade of communists rallying for an upcoming vote. Well, my wife is from an actually communist country, and wanted to warn all those people that they would not have been allowed to parade or demonstrate in the country she's from. And would probably be a lot hungrier.

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Post by Nifty3929 »

hadrien01 wrote: post #2

I suppose this is in response to this executive order: ENDING TAXPAYER SUBSIDIZATION OF BIASED MEDIA https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/05/endi... I would add that PBS has this to say about public media funding: > The U.S. is almost literally off the chart for how little we allocate towards our public media. At the federal level, it comes out to a little over $1.50 per person per year. Compare that…

>>The U.S. is almost literally off the chart for how little we allocate towards our public media.

So? This is no justification for spending any particular amount of money on public media.

We also rank near the bottom on spending for Bigfoot observational studies and head-regrowth technology.

Perhaps the burden should be on folks to justify why we would want politicians to spend any money at all on public media.

I love Sesame St and Mr Rogers as much as anybody - I grew up on that stuff. It was great. But certainly folks can see how this could gradually move into more politicized topics where it's better for the government to stay entirely out of it. And frankly, any form of "news" is on the wrong side of that line. Of course, it's theoretically possible to provide entirely factual news - but I would in no way trust any government (or entities funded thereby) to deliver it. Far to risky.

At this point it's probably best to zero out all the funding, and then come back later and see if there is a genuine need for some form of public broadcasting.

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Post by xigency »

brnt wrote: post #226
lamename wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Education to the uneducated (or those who would prefer we remain uneducated in the face of power) can easily cast any education as "biased" against their purposes. Most people see through that for what it is, but an increasing population of Americans don't.

“It is a well known fact that reality has liberal bias.”

It's a less well-known fact that criminals love chaos and grifters/scammers love the poorly educated.

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Post by Nifty3929 »

ujkhsjkdhf234 wrote: post #90

If he actually cared about unbiased media, he would reinstate the Fairness Doctrine which he won't do because that would kill Fox, Newsmax, and the rest of the Republican propaganda outlets.

I think the problem with that is: who defines "fair"

Is it fair to criticize Trump? What if that criticism is based on "alternate facts" according to Trump?

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Post by [deleted] »

jimbokun wrote: post #317
stackbutterflow wrote: post #263

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If if was not clear my point is that it evolved with the current form of government of the time but never departed from the original goal of for those in power to conserve their power.

People in power who do not want to conserve their power are incredibly rare, regardless of their professed ideological orientation.

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Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by Nifty3929 »

Always a good idea the actual text of these things, to get a true idea of what is actually being changed and why:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/05/endi...

It doesn't take away CPB's money - it just tells them that they can't fund NPR and PBS anymore, but NPR only gets about 1% of it's funding from CPB anyway. I couldn't find the number for PBS.

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