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I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by AlecSchueler »

fads_go wrote: post #474
oefrha wrote: post #284

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> Why do people want to live in the US and jump through all these hoops and be subject to arbitrary detentions, anyway? Lots of people, especially those from third world countries, don’t know what they are getting into. They’ve been brainwashed into believing “the American dream” (that anyone can find good jobs, be homeowners, etc.) by movies, television, social media, and other immigrants making money in the immigra…

I would again refer you to the Statue of Liberty, and what America once stood for. You might be right about the brainwashing from media, but there is an older, deeper story and promise of the United States as the land of the free. I think there is even a song about it, "land of the free home of the brave" or something like that. I hear it occasionally at sporting events.

And it was written while slavery was still in full swing, right? And long before women were given any say in the democratic process. When did the genocides of the natives come into the picture, were they also counted among the free and the brave?

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by avgDev »

tac19 wrote: post #456
yks wrote: post #355

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In a blink of an eye Americans went from "the government is out there to oppress you" to "if the government says the undisclosed people it snatches from the streets and deports are criminals, it must be true".

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The new administration has no regards for law. They are breaking multiple laws. This isn't how you get things done.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by [deleted] »

gorbachev wrote: post #407
blindriver wrote: post #21

Yes. This is the reality of how it is. It’s unfair that this woman was caught in this but CBP have ultimate power crossing the border can be scary. My friend got her visa stripped and given a 10 year ban under Obama because of jokes in her text messages about a GC marriage. She didn’t get thrown in jail but she was refused entry back into the US and had to get someone to sell all her stuff while she flew back to her…

"It’s even worse in other countries." I imagine it would be, if you visited South Sudan. It is not "even worse" in any of the western countries. The border control people in most western countries are actually friendly. They are polite, sometimes even, gasp, smile at you.

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Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by [deleted] »

pjc50 wrote: post #25
snapcaster wrote: post #3

This is horrible and scary, why border guards are even giving the authority to revoke visas is beyond me. When people think about giving cops/guards authority like this they need to be picturing the dumbest bully from their grade school. That's who is going to be using the power

It's Team Grade School Bullies all the way up, from the voters to the representatives. Plus decades of pro-cop propaganda, especially against following the rules.

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Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by fourside »

aaron695 wrote: post #433
greggyb wrote: post #237

Why is this flagged? First of all, it's about an entrepreneur traveling to the US for a startup, which is directly relevant to a significant proportion of YCombinator founders themselves. Beyond its direct relevance to the core founding audience of HN, it is not clickbait or wantonly inflammatory, and is clearly of interest to many based on the comment activity and votes.

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Given your concern for accuracy why don’t you provide specifics about what the issues with her side of the story are, or at least a link to an article that does? Because so far you’ve only made vague accusations. What illegal drugs was she selling? The article mentions the company she worked for made a drink with hemp. Is that what you’re referring to?

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by iinnPP »

cutemonster wrote: post #503
mateus1 wrote: post #400

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Musk, Trump and DOGE topics are all being flagged, even if they are relevant… The tech world has blessed this regime.

I don't think 51% of the readers here need to flag something for it to get flagged - maybe more like 5% or 15%? I guess you can conclude that a few percent here likes Trump etc, but far from a majority

As someone on neither side of that aisle I can tell you it is the smothering effect of attempting any logical discussion in those topics. The smothering effect comes from one side more often than not.

The best part of it all is that you can post like the above with no clear side chosen and the people whom it applies to will react to it negatively as well.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by beart »

apwell23 wrote: post #455
causal wrote: post #369

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Disingenuous take, did you even read the article? 1) She was not detained in connection with any crime whatsoever. At no point was her company's use of THC stated as a reason for detainment. 2) You have invented the idea that her second job was fake. If it were, then fraud could have been a crime and reason for detainment- but again, the article makes it clear no crime was charged or cited. 3) You are right that plen…

After a long interrogation, the officer told me it seemed “shady” and that my visa hadn’t been properly processed. He claimed I also couldn’t work for a company in the US that made use of hemp – one of the beverage ingredients. i don't know what hemp is or how is related to THC.

Hemp is a type of cannabis. Historically in the US, it contained extremely small amounts of THC. With the legalization/decriminalization of THC across many states, I don't know if that's still true.

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Post by projectazorian »

starkrights wrote: post #529
aaron695 wrote: post #433

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Can you provide a source for the illegal drug claim? I'm having a seriously hard time finding any articles on this subject mentioning drugs at all.

The startup employing her was selling products containing hemp, which used to be illegal but was legalized at the federal level several years ago.

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Post by tac19 »

avgDev wrote: post #532
tac19 wrote: post #456

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The new administration has no regards for law. They are breaking multiple laws. This isn't how you get things done.

That's really irrelevant to the point being discussed. I was just trying to give some context to the apparent hypocrisy the OP had identified, without adding my own opinion about it.

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Post by 9rx »

Etheryte wrote: post #453
9rx wrote: post #393

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Depends on what you consider related, but that's about how many I'd expect to show up at a family reunion.

Assuming four generations attend, that would work out to over four kids per couple. Older generations often had a lot of kids, but that still sounds like a pretty high number to me. First gen: 1 person, plus 1 spouse, for 2 people. Second gen: 4 children of the 1st gen, plus 4 spouses, for 8 additional people. Third gen: 16 children of the 2nd gen, plus 16 spouses, for 32 additional people. Fourth gen: 64 young child…

> Assuming four generations attend

In my neck of the woods that would only be considered a "family gathering". You will see that group on a fairly regular basis (holidays, birthdays, quiet weekend, etc.) A "family reunion", indicating reuniting of family that doesn't see each other so often, extends further – at least five or even six generations.

But also 4 kids is nothing for a Bin Laden. Maybe if you multiply by 10...!

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