I would define ads as promoting other businesses' products, as you would see on YouTube etc. Upselling is basically just unlocking additional features. If you object to that, then you're objecting to the freemium model, not to "ads".
> I would define ads as promoting other businesses' products, as you would see on YouTube etc. They do that, they call them "quests". Companies pay them to promote their product/service and users get rewards for doing a task (like playing a game, watching a video, etc.) https://discord.com/ads/quests The article that parent linked even says it.
Are they personalized? Is Discord in the business of selling user data to feed personalized ads to them?
That's exactly the question - how does a free communication app achieve a multi-billion dollar valuation despite not having ads or directly selling user data? Discord's business model relies on attracting a massive user base to secure substantial investments and potentially a lucrative acquisition. We've seen again and again and again what happens once acquisition takes place. Also a big existing investor in Discord…
And there's no way to delete your chat history basically. You can delete your account, but that doesn't destroy your messages. And as for privacy: Your username is anonymous, but your email isn't (to Discord), so the % of users that didn't create a separate fake email, or ever connected with a trackable IP, basically aren't anonymous at all. They also record your voice. Every user's voice is recorded in isolation and…
Even lower-level Discord admins can basically any user's entire chat histories across all servers ever. There is zero encryption
I'm at a total loss why social chat boards want to have the most antisocial names.
Some would consider a commitment to overthrowing oppressive power structures extremely pro-social
Would you call the French Revolution antisocial? Massive demonstrations? What about the Hong Kong uprising?
It's all a matter of perspective. Those who live a stable life might see a threat to the system that grants them that stability as "anti-social" while those who do not benefit from the current system can see revolting as "pro-social"
Teamspeak and others were so well entrenched at the time. Wouldn't players of WoW, CS, etc. have brought those tools to FFXIV? What made that special?
Its killer feature was how frictionless it was to adopt initially. If I sent you a Discord link, back then you could just click it and be going in under a minute. Same reason Zoom quickly took over video chat. It was so easy to use that you didn't have to convince your friends to sign up for it, you just sent them a link and it just worked.
You did have to sign up and login, right? I believe this is one of the major things that make it much less frictionless for people.
The problem with Discord is that it doesn't allow for servers in the same way a protocol like IRC does. Some commenters have alluded to this. From a quick glance, revolt.chat doesn't allow for server creation either. Am I mistaken or is this pretty much a joke (Discord replacement with the only real benefit being a 'trust us bro, we're European' sort of promise to not do bad things)?
There is server creation in the sense that you can host the whole backend on your own domain: https://github.com/revoltchat/self-hosted/blob/master/compos... >. Not sure if their own hosted offering has a "click to spin up new server" button. Probably not.
You're comparing ancient obsolete technology to a streamlined instant messaging client. There's a reason they 'just' use Discord. So now you want developers to have to check emails, IRC, forum posts, whatever other outdated communication platform, AND Discord? Why on Earth would they use all that when Discord takes care of all of those features and more. Having more than one central place to communicate is 'hostile'.
> You're comparing ancient obsolete technology to a streamlined instant messaging client. Just because something is old, doesn’t mean it is bad.
Its killer feature was how frictionless it was to adopt initially. If I sent you a Discord link, back then you could just click it and be going in under a minute. Same reason Zoom quickly took over video chat. It was so easy to use that you didn't have to convince your friends to sign up for it, you just sent them a link and it just worked.
You did have to sign up and login, right? I believe this is one of the major things that make it much less frictionless for people.
If I recall correctly, yes, but it was like, enter your email and username BAM now you have an account.
It's not quite so easy anymore, partly because when you reach a certain size, it's all about controlling bots and whatnot.
You did have to sign up and login, right? I believe this is one of the major things that make it much less frictionless for people.
If I recall correctly, yes, but it was like, enter your email and username BAM now you have an account. It's not quite so easy anymore, partly because when you reach a certain size, it's all about controlling bots and whatnot.
Agreed. You now have to verify your phone number to have access to many guilds.
The biggest selling point of Discord is its insane network effects. There are servers for libraries/frameworks, languages, ai/ml, math, whatever you can think of. And a lot of the adjacent ones will cross-link scheduled events and messages from other servers. I'm really hoping for an alternative. I'm always weary of en-shitification whenever a single platform wins all the users.. like what has happened to Reddit.
I mean from what I can tell a lot of its recent success is simply because Slack is terrible. Most of the discord "servers" I use which aren't actually gaming related would be almost the same on slack, but slack has a less generous free tier. I don't think discord has much of a real network effect, it's just a good value proposition. When the screws tighten that may change.
Slack's UI sucks for multiple different "server"s. Good for work, but no gamer wants to juggle around the Slack UI for 2/3 different game servers, not to mention DMs being isolated. Imagine DMing the same person with 2 or 3 completely separate chat histories, depending on the source server. Many people have multiple servers that share a subset of people, and talking to them would be absolutely insane, not to mention the amount of people that primarily use Discord for DMs that don't care about any server at all.