Microsoft killed Skype when they removed its peer to peer architecture.
Microsoft is killing Skype
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#532The news is that skype wasn’t already dead
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#533Is there a replacement for my use case? Essentially I have two Skype numbers in different countries, and use Skype to receive/forward calls and also to dial out from them to those countries.
It never worked great to be honest, and I don't care about losing the numbers, but I'd like the functionality.
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#534The way Microsoft and Skype missed their opportunity during the pandemic to maintain or even expand their lead in video conferencing, while allowing a complete unknown (outside of the corporate world, at least) like Zoom to become the dominant platform, should be studied in business schools. The term 'Skype' is so synonymous with video calling that, based on personal experience, it is still used in place of FaceTime…
During covid I asked if I could switch my monthly Skype number to annual and they said the only way is to cancel and resubscribe, with a new phone number. It was clear they didn't care even back then.
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#535Earlier quoted context omitted.
Teams (which includes the guts of Lync... aka Skype For Business) has grown into Microsoft's behemoth (320 million active daily users while Zoom only has 200k business customers and actually declined YoY). If you are talking non-business free users then sure, Zoom comes out on top.
Doesn't Microsoft install it on every windows laptop automatically? Are they all "users"?
Active daily users. Any company with Office suite (which is basically any behemoth in every single country) just uses Teams, instead of paying up for Slack.
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#536Earlier quoted context omitted.
Naw, having been there, Microsoft killed Skype because it had no idea how to manage a B2C product.
> microsoft > had no idea how to manage a B2C product What does this mean? MS has enough of b2c products. Windows is. Office is. Not enough?
> MS has enough of b2c products. Windows is. Office is. Not enough?
You really think Windows (11, since anything older is gone) is a b2c product? It's free. It has advertisements. It has a data mining AI. You are not the customer. Windows is a b2b product.
You really think Office (365, since anything older is gone) is a b2c product? It's "free". It has advertisements. It has data mining AI. You are not the customer. Office is a b2b product.
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#537Earlier quoted context omitted.
Who said they were government owned though? Stagnation and risk averseness is pretty much the default when it comes to most major European companies. In almost any sector.
Not true, just some cheap internet meme for people too lazy to bother understanding economics and different principles US and European societies and markets work on. And the claim of parent that income from sales would go to EU, which is not true, it went to Nokia owners who aren't in any meaning 'EU'. Its like saying any sale of any US private company to some foreign one goes to trump and his government. Your post i…
> different principles
Yes, risk aversion.
Of course there are highly innovative and successful companies in Europe, but they are usually highly specialized or an exception to the rule.
It wasn’t always the case of course, but the last ~15 years or so have been a disaster.
> verifiable made up claims
Well yes, it’s rather easily verifiable. The biggest “tech” company in the EU is SAP after all.
It’s a but confusing is your comment supposed to be sarcasm? Otherwise how exactly are my claims “made up”?
> would go to EU, which is not true, it went to Nokia owners who aren't in any meaning 'EU
It’s very obvious that they didn’t mean that especially if you read what they said next. Not sure how one can misinterpret it.
Re: Microsoft is killing Skype
#538Microsoft killed Skype when they removed its peer to peer architecture.
I keep seeing this comment in the thread, but I don’t really understand it. Sure, p2p is cool for us engineers. But why the end user ever cares about it? Microsoft’s purpose is to sell the product to as many customers as possible. If the decision was made to axe the architecture to increase the sales… it’s not the wrong decision? For us, tech snobs, we can always find an alternative anyways.
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#539Thats it. Public companies only think about their shares price and KPI.
Only private/startup companies can build nice piece of software and have good product. Enterprise can only be fat and ugly
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#540When I started my business, i needed a voip phone number and was already in Microsoft ecosystem so I went with Skype.
It was a freaking mess. And expensive on top of that.
Couldn't believe how people were paying for Skype number services.
A few years later, i can't believe how people are paying for any Microsoft service and how this company isn't already dead.
If there wasn't for the os quasi monopoly with windows that behave like a platform on top of which they can promote office software, onedrive and so on, Microsoft wouldn't be making any money with it's software. It's absolutely pathetic.