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Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by dima55 »

ndiddy wrote: post #451
bdhcuidbebe wrote: post #443

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iPhone 13 mini, i mean 24 hours

Of course your phone has a short runtime, it both has a small battery and it's 3 years old so the battery's worn out. One of the main reasons why small phones remain a niche is that improvements in battery technology have been far outpaced by improvements in SoCs, so the easiest way to improve a device's battery life vs. the older model is to make it larger so it can fit a bigger battery. Even when it was new, the re…

If only one could open the back and replace the battery, the thing that has been known to everybody to wear out while the rest of the device is perfectly functional. One could only dream of such advanced technology. Maybe in 10 years.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by makeitdouble »

bustling-noose wrote: post #225

Think of the QC modem as an API and that API is limited to what QC wants apple or anyone else using their modem to do. The firmware is pushed by QC and then apple can use it to update it’s modems of QC when it does it’s now updates. Now with C1 that API is designed at apple and in a way that their soc team wants to get the best battery life along. So the modem can be turned off / on updated request data signals etc i…

> Would love a 5G MacBook with a data plan.

I thoroughly enjoyed the ATP podcast discussion on this.

Sounds like the base assumption is Apple is incapable of having decent tethering even as they control the whole ecosystem, including special protocols in-between their product they design 100% from hardware to software.

But somehow pushing the modem in the MacBook solves this...because Apple is then good at managing transient network connections in macos, hooking to complex mesh networks on protocols they don't control ?

To my eyes Apple being unable to realize these dreamlike expectations is probably the very reason MacBooks don't have modems.

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Post by saagarjha »

chongli wrote: post #481

Now they don't have any phones with the old-style rounded bezel. The SE was the very last of them. I have a 12 mini and thing I really hate about it is the sharp, orthogonal bezel. It's very uncomfortable to hold for longer periods of time. I'm taking this as a sign from Apple that I use my phone too much and should probably stop.

The newer phones have rounded out the bezels a bit.

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Post by rmah »

bdhcuidbebe wrote: post #381
Retr0id wrote: post #284

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But how many hours of video playback?

My iPhone today last for less than a day while I dont watch any video on it, In fact, i barely use it currently, and it still drains batteries in no time. And yes, I disabled most background services and location services and run screen on low brightness - all the popular hacks to reduce battery usage.

My 7 year old iphone lasts almost two days if I don't do anything too taxing (i.e. video). I don't think I do anything special. I guess YMMV.

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Post by nicce »

threeseed wrote: post #522
bdhcuidbebe wrote: post #436

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> I think the iphone does a lot more in the background than you might consider initially. I understand that. My point being that 25 year old tech, before the real miniatyrization of circuits and power efficiency mind you, has 7x charge time and yet we are impressed by a few additional hours. > Here is an experiment to try. Use your phone as you currently do, but turn on airplane mode when you aren't otherwise using t…

> I understand that. My point being that 25 year old tech, before the real miniatyrization of circuits and power efficiency mind you, has 7x charge time and yet we are impressed by a few additional hours. Yes because those phones by comparison do nothing so it’s a meaningless comparison. It’s like arguing that we shouldn’t be impressed about EV range improvements because the bicycle exists.

> Yes because those phones by comparison do nothing so it’s a meaningless comparison.

We were able to call with them and send messages. On top of that I mostly use browser with my current phone on comparison, while not necessary.

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Post by FollowingTheDao »

DrBenCarson wrote: post #462
SirMaster wrote: post #340

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So the video test is done with the video streaming over cellular data? Otherwise what would a video playback time spec have to do with the efficiency of the cellular radio?

Phones maintain a cellular connection even if most data is being transmitted over WiFi at any given moment Cellular modems are constantly reading and broadcasting messages to the cellular network unless they are explicitly turned off

But they use much more power when they are receiving data.

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Post by saagarjha »

walterbell wrote: post #172
baxtr wrote: post #60

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Apple has no problem with self cannibalization. See the iPod or the iPad with keyboard for example.

Counterpoint: removing Hypervisor API from iOS 16, ostensibly to prevent iPads from cannibalizing MacBooks.

That was because they found a security bug in that code and decided to ifdef it out if it wasn’t being used.

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Post by seec »

dehrmann wrote: post #98
new_vienna wrote: post #42

It seems that this will cannibalize iPhone 16 sales - it's $200 cheaper, same form factor and internals, with the only difference being the camera, which if you care about you go for the Pro model. However, the price makes for a much more appealing upgrade for anyone who has an older iPhone

If the only things left to compete on are the camera and frame construction, maybe it's time for the non-pro line to go away.

There should never have been a "Pro" line in the first place. It's all about creating desire through marketing to make people spend more on the ladder.

The iPhone 4 had stainless steel frame, yet they made a big deal of it with the X and subsequent "Pro" generation when it was a standard "feature" that set them appart for success in the first place. It's crazy how much bullshit Apple have been selling since their financiarisation.

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Post by coliveira »

throwaway4731 wrote: post #511
ksec wrote: post #413

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Except making a decent modem is indeed harder than start of art CPU. People loves to shit on Qualcomm but dont appreciate that amount of work involved.

The hard part is not the modem design per se. The hard part is designing a good modem while also unambiguously working around all the Qualcomm patents in all the jurisdictions that have iPhone, which is all of them. Because if you don’t do that, you’re still paying Qualcomm which defeats an important purpose of making your own modem.

Apple is most probably paying Qualcomm for these technologies. They think however that it is commercially beneficial to have their own implementation.
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