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Re: I still like Sublime Text

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Post by kapitanluffy »

Klaster_1 wrote: post #259
ben-schaaf wrote: post #81

Sublime Text developer here, thank you for all the praise! I'm looking forward to what we can accomplish this year. If you have any questions I'd be happy to answer.

I've been a Sublime Text user for ten years, bought it and Sublime Merge multiple times. A year ago, I permanently moved to VSCode because of three things: 1. Solid coding AI integration with frequent improvements. Sublime Text at best gives you an option to plug an LSP with modest capabilities. It's behind the times. 2. Small community, infrequent extension updates. 3. Limited UI capabilities. Extensions have to con…

Here's my two (or three?) cents

1. There are several plugins that allow AI integration 2. There is an active community on https://discord.sublimetext.io

3. From what I can perceive based on Sublime HQ's responses, it's main focus for Sublime Text is simplicity and to be a text editor. You can notice this if you look at the banner text in the website; it says "Text Editing, Done Right". And while it is mainly used for code and most of its users are developers, it tries not to be. However, it does provide people the ability to extend it however they please.

Overall, Sublime Text is indeed not as fully featured as VSCode because it is not supposed to.

Re: I still like Sublime Text

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Post by kapitanluffy »

ellis0n wrote: post #505
ben-schaaf wrote: post #81

Sublime Text developer here, thank you for all the praise! I'm looking forward to what we can accomplish this year. If you have any questions I'd be happy to answer.

Sublime is the best! I've been creating a new programming language ACPUL with Sublime for 10 years https://old.reddit.com/r/acpu/comments/1fxxjtx/acpu_mobile_d... . I don't have the resources, so please add support for the ACPUL programming language. If Sublime had a good debugger, it would be even more powerful.

Support for syntaxes (and/or debuggers) are mostly provided by the community. Creating a syntax for your language shouldn't be that hard afaik. Just head over to https://discord.sublimetext.io to talk to the active community

Re: I still like Sublime Text

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Post by kapitanluffy »

microflash wrote: post #276
ben-schaaf wrote: post #81

Sublime Text developer here, thank you for all the praise! I'm looking forward to what we can accomplish this year. If you have any questions I'd be happy to answer.

Are there are plans to improve Search UI and make sidebar more capable. I really like the way VSCode’s search interface where results are listed on sidebar and clicking an item opens the file in the editor. Regardless of the above experience, Sublime Text is still my daily driver since 2012. Nothing has come close to it.

there is a "Find in Files" feature. It will show you a new tab with results where you can use key binds to navigate (next, previous, open line of result)

You can see the feature under "Find > Find in Files" You can see the "navigation" under "Find > Find Results"

For more help, head over to https://discord.sublimetext.io (and tag me, I'll reply when I can)

Re: I still like Sublime Text

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Post by jiehong »

ben-schaaf wrote: post #81

Sublime Text developer here, thank you for all the praise! I'm looking forward to what we can accomplish this year. If you have any questions I'd be happy to answer.

Perhaps Sublime Text could run some annual anonymous survey?

It could both be an indicator of what the community is doing, and who your users are, and also a way to promote some new features people might have missed (like the survey "state of CSS").

I enjoy both Sublime Text and Sublime Merge almost everyday, thank you very much for making them!

Some annoyances, though:

- the way plugins are displayed inside ST while browsing for them is limited. Other editors usually provide a much better UI. The web version of package control is required in the end.

- Ctrl-P does not the same thing in ST and SM, and it always tricks me. I wished they would be more aligned by default, but that ship has sailed I guess. I should rebind them.

- SM UI can be slow / be unresponsive for a while like when a tool has run and 20k files were created but not part of git ignore yet. It makes deleting them quite difficult from the UI.

- I wish SM would allow me to pick up patch files from the diff UI and import them from there more easily.

- I wish Mac OS dictation would be more native in SM, and allow me to change language like in other Mac OS apps.

Re: I still like Sublime Text

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Post by buu700 »

dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #150

I really want to like Sublime (it's so fast, I like the minimal UI), but VS Code has so much inertia, and does so much out of the box or with minimal extra effort that it's hard to not use it instead. At the end of the day, I have things to get done, I'm not here to tinker with tools. Same reason I never got into vim/emacs etc as a daily driver.

Same, after a certain point (for TypeScript particularly) I found it was too big a hassle not to switch to VS Code. All these years later, I still have VS Code configured to look and behave like Sublime. I found it funny one time when someone noticed me working on my laptop in public and said it was nice to see another Sublime user, which I had to correct him on.

Re: I still like Sublime Text

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Post by pinoy420 »

nine_k wrote: post #451
munificent wrote: post #421

I love Sublime Text. It's one of my favorite pieces of software. I have it running 100% of the time on every machine I work on. It's where I write all of my personal notes, blog posts, and it's where I wrote both "Game Programming Patterns" and "Crafting Interpreters". At the same time, it's not the tool I use as an IDE. For programming, I use whatever IDE is dominant for the language I'm working in. Over time, that'…

Funnily, my approach is somehow opposite. I run Emacs with all bells and whistles to write whatever language. With LSPs, you are now not married to a language-specific IDE. As a developer, I just start Emacs in server mode and never shut it down. Then I use emacsclient to edit all kinds of files. It loads instantly, handles any reasonable files, can access remote files when needed, and has all the tools I want handy.…

That sounds like an academic exercise rather than anything practical

Re: I still like Sublime Text

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Post by ben-schaaf »

sandbags wrote: post #362
ben-schaaf wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The license does not expire after 3 years, it is perpetual, but it doesn't apply to versions released more than 3 years after your purchase. If you don't want any newer features or fixes you can simply turn off updates. We warn you before updating to a version not covered by your license.

How did you arrive at this model?

There's not much to it: we wanted steadier income and our customers wanted more consistent updates but also perpetual licenses. This model was the natural conclusion. We tried it out with Sublime Merge and then brought it over with ST4.

Re: I still like Sublime Text

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Post by nine_k »

pinoy420 wrote: post #537
nine_k wrote: post #451

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funnily, my approach is somehow opposite. I run Emacs with all bells and whistles to write whatever language. With LSPs, you are now not married to a language-specific IDE. As a developer, I just start Emacs in server mode and never shut it down. Then I use emacsclient to edit all kinds of files. It loads instantly, handles any reasonable files, can access remote files when needed, and has all the tools I want handy.…

That sounds like an academic exercise rather than anything practical

It looks like the comment is posted to a wrong thread.

(FTR, the setup above is used for practical, mostly commercial programming; I've left academia without even finishing my post-grad study, decades ago.)

Re: I still like Sublime Text

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Post by ben-schaaf »

ckunte wrote: post #250

Long time Sublime Text and Sublime Merge fan, and a paying user since 2011. It's very good; I use all three OSes (Windows at work, MacOS on occasion, Linux is primary driver, and I've now switched to Pi 5. Zed does not even load on this, whereas ST just flies. (The only real competition is Neovim.) That reminds me, I wonder if Sublime Text still has room to improve in some areas. Here's an example, in Vim generating…

You can achieve the same thing using the arithmetic command in the command palette: `__import__('datetime').datetime.now().strftime("%Y-%m-%d %H:%M")`.
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