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Why Canada Should Join the EU

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Re: Why Canada Should Join the EU

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Post by 3vidence »

femiagbabiaka wrote: post #195
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And most of it misplaced. I've seen that tactic to try to discredit real, valid concerns with immigration, either by lumping it with racism (which definitely exists, but is not the only argument against unfettered immigration), or by pretending something else is the problem (something else may also be a problem, but that doesn't make the problems that people are worried about with high levels of immigration invalid…

> People feeling likes many immigrant communities are creating enclaves instead of adopting the culture of Canada. Every immigrant community creates enclaves. Quebec is an enclave the size of a province. > Many recent immigrants are unskilled, resulting in a larger burden on provincial-based social services. I can find NO evidence for this whatsoever, do you have any?

Hard to say Quebec is an enclave.... It is quite literally the founding half of the country.

Re: Why Canada Should Join the EU

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Post by bombcar »

mmmmmbop wrote: post #360
nobodywillobsrv wrote: post #7

The biggest problem with the EU is that it is built for bureaucrats and as such it is geared towards irreversible "blob" decisions. Brexit should have been a near no-op. But it was a huge pain. They hadn't even planned for it or thought about it. EU should have a pre-memeber clearing state that countries stay in and then vote every year or n years to be "in" or "out" of the EU. But part of being in the EU should be t…

> EU should have a pre-memeber clearing state that countries stay in and then vote every year or n years to be "in" or "out" of the EU. But part of being in the EU should be to maintain non-in versions of all policies so that members can actually negotiate and easily leave without having huge bureaucratic cost. Do the United States have a system like that?

Down here we had a minor discussion in the 1800s about how the states and federal government should be run.

General consensus since then has been that states can’t leave, but who knows! Things could change.

Re: Why Canada Should Join the EU

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Post by bombcar »

bobxmax wrote: post #298
Neonlicht wrote: post #295

Canada is more likely to be formally incorporated into the US- after the fall of the British empire there's nothing standing in Washington's way.

Well aside from 30 million angry Canadians ready to burn down the white house again.

Let’s meet at the border, we’ll give you everyone who always threatens to move to Canada, and you can give us everyone threatening to move to the USA. Sort of an amnesty deal.

Re: Why Canada Should Join the EU

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Post by genman »

aprilthird2021 wrote: post #310
tsimionescu wrote: post #6

> Canada’s inclusive treatment of its indigenous peoples, at least in recent decades, could be emulated by Europeans (though First Nations Canadians might fairly object to closer ties with ex-colonists) I really wonder what the author meant with this line. There's very few populations in Europe that bear any similarity whatsoever with the relationship between First Nations people and most Canadians, since most popula…

Lots of Europe has ethnic strife and tensions. Bosnian / Serbian. Czech / Slovak (until recently). Spain has its breakaway ethnic movements. Ireland like others mentioned is a close analogue.

Nothing like that is even by slightest similar to indigenous people of Canada. Nothing. Also while Canada my want people, so does EU.

Re: Why Canada Should Join the EU

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Post by TMWNN »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #90
glitchc wrote: post #36

Hot take: Canada should join the US.

Does that come with a few trillions in reparations for lands confiscated from Loyalists who were forced to flee to Canada at the end of the American rebellion? Or for the Mohawk who fled here and helped us fight the Yanks off in 1812?

Sorry to shatter your illusions, but all Loyalist land claims were settled in post-Revolutionary War treaties between the US and UK.

Re: Why Canada Should Join the EU

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Post by TMWNN »

layer8 wrote: post #92
postepowanieadm wrote: post #58

It's a very nice idea, but to join the EU, you have to be in Europe. https://www.europarl.europa.eu/factsheets/en/sheet/167/the-e...

If Greenland can join the US, surely Canada could join Europe.

Greenland is part of North America.

(So is half of Iceland.)

Re: Why Canada Should Join the EU

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Post by 3vidence »

epolanski wrote: post #98
aborsy wrote: post #66

Canada will do much better joining US (and distancing itself from declining EU and its disastrous policies). The US is much better managed; the results speak for themselves.

Gonna tell you a secret, the world isn't black and white, while there are areas such as the economy where we struggle to compete as an European I would never want to live in the US again (I studied in Columbus Ohio for 7 months as an exchange student at OSU and traveled US multiple times). The streets here are clean, spotting a homeless person is borderline impossible even if you try, in US I've seen tents, bidonvill…

Did you say you can't spot a homeless person in Canada???

This literally can't be true every single large city in Canada is struggling with increasing homelessness right now.

Do you live in a cabin up in Muskoka??

Re: Why Canada Should Join the EU

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Post by dlivingston »

defrost wrote: post #274
highcountess wrote: post #262

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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All the research on "diversity" shows that it is clearly associated with particular media outlets as a primary talking point and wedge issue. Outside readers rarely hear about diversity from other sources - the noise ratio from one side of the US aisle on the issue is staggering.

If ground.news and Manufacturing Consent have taught me anything, it's that "legacy" / traditional media regularly ignore valid stories.

Re: Why Canada Should Join the EU

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Post by 0xcafefood »

dudeinjapan wrote: post #458
titanomachy wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right. I don't live in Canada anymore, but even my moderate and liberal friends in Canada regularly complain about immigrants. That sentiment feels very new to me, though. I think Canada did have a positive view of immigrants for a long time.

Time to build a wall eh?

If Canada built some walls around its airports and universities, that might actually work.
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