J*sus. I fully plan to stop going around with my iphone everywhere (until this is fully explained). We could all be 1 glitch (think CrowdStrike) away from getting lithium exploded mysteriously.
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#533If we try to do what we are best at here at HN, let’s focus the discussion on the technical aspects of it. It immediately reminded me of Stuxnet, which also from a technical perspective was quite interesting. I already wonder if this was anything that was planted in the devices perviously, or if the ones responsible had similar devices, and managed reverse engineer them and craft a payload to them, that could be sent…
I suspect supply-chain attack (probably started some time ago), combined with a pager signal software hack. I really hope that they didn't figure out a way to make unmodified kit explode, because it would only be a matter of time, before our devices were blowing up everywhere, as folks do it for the lulz.
> they didn't figure out a way to make unmodified kit explode
I don’t think so no, just observing the aftermath of each shows that it was modified. Also, assuming it was unmodified way, it will go both ways so I doubt it.
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#5348 year old girl was dead there, not only hezbollah members uses it, hospitals uses it too
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#535Amazingly enough, the concept of hacking personal communications devices to explode was explored recently in the "phone strike" scene in Jackpot! , an Amazon MGM Studios movie released a month ago. https://x.com/obdmpod/status/1836087414290284588
This is nothing new. Israel has done attacks like this since the 60s.
They've remotely triggered multiple consumer devices simultaneously?
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#536If we try to do what we are best at here at HN, let’s focus the discussion on the technical aspects of it. It immediately reminded me of Stuxnet, which also from a technical perspective was quite interesting. I already wonder if this was anything that was planted in the devices perviously, or if the ones responsible had similar devices, and managed reverse engineer them and craft a payload to them, that could be sent…
My other thought is that these probably came from the Iranian military, and it’s quite possible the Iranian military puts explosives in them so they can remotely detonate one that falls into enemy hands. And that Isreal simply found out about this and managed to figure out how to activate that.
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#537They must really be in desperate need for more conflict to keep their population at bay. For Netanyahu certainly conflicts come at a convenient time. First he tried to swing himself up to dictator like figure, taking away power from judiciary, tens of thousands of people go to protest. Then October 7 happens. Suddenly a war keeps him in power. Now that that has been going on, and hundreds of thousands are on the streets, they are doing many things to provoke another conflict/war. I think if they fail to keep Israel in a war-like state, his days will be over quickly. He knows that, so he tries to escalate. Not that Iran and their allies aren't provoking and escalating either, but for Netanyahu this is all very convenient.
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#538Thousands now were injured. This is a massive scale (terrorist) attack
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#539From Israel's perspective, this supply chain attack was undoubtedly a clever move, but I can't help but wonder about its long-term consequences. Although it was aimed at harming Israel's adversaries, third-party countries may now hesitate to involve Israel in their supply chains. There's also the risk that other major producers could replicate this tactic, potentially leading to further escalation in the region or be…
Do you think Hezbollah was buying stuff from Israel, or otherwise using Israeli supply chains? I think it's far more likely that Mossad has infiltrated whatever foreign (non-Israeli) supply chain they were using. So this can happen regardless of whether you're using Israeli supply chains or not.
I think the point is that if you're not Hezbollah or any kind of political actor, but just a customer for Israeli technology (public or private), would you really want to keep buying it? Leave aside boycotts over Israeli policy, you might be opening yourself to becoming an Israeli attack vector and either find your own interests compromised or become a target of Israel's enemies if they thought you were complicit.
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#540The reason you are asked to prove your laptop can boot at airport security is that batteries and bombs have similar densities.
It would be pretty straight forward to rig a pager to run off of one battery while the other is an explosive charge made to look like the actual battery.