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I disagree again, and I would much rather be homeless than have ME/CFS, I'd still make that trade today. You clearly don't know what it means to have ME/CFS and I don't begrudge that, hardly anyone does. I would rather you be homeless than have you be part of making an airplane unsafe and I will judge you for that. I don't care how hard life is for you and I don't expect others to care how life has been for me - if y…
What absolutely weird replies. You clearly are the victim of the world, sir. Nobody has worse problems than you! None of this was a competition, super strange to make it so and not just recognize not everyone can quit their job today, nod your head and agree. Because that is a fact.
You tried to invalidate their position by making this about personal experiences. When they counter with personal experiences, you don't get to cry foul and claim they made it a "competition".
And your first paragraph is just making shit up. Come on.
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Everyone lied about the price of bonds, that's why our major investment banks still exist (though, I suppose CS doesn't at this point; that's another story).
What is your point? (1) That others should have gone to jail too, or that (2) Kareem was only doing what everyone else was doing? For (1), were other people prosecuted? Maybe there was insufficient evidence or process issues that got in the way of additional convictions. For (2), how does that excuse a crime? Kareem's story is fascinating for many reasons and I don't find lying about bond prices to be a crime to hate…
If there was insufficient evidence in every other case, then that's a massive systemic problem we need to fix.
And I can't think of any "process issue" that would cause this particular outcome other than "massive corruption".
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If it does go to trial it would be great for people behind this to be directly tried for their criminal actions as well. The reality is that a company is on trial for the actions of individuals and if there is no follow through on that it will not change anything. I doubt it goes to trial as I am 99% sure that the judge will rubber stamp the whole thing because the US is a corporate driven hellscape where peasants ar…
Don't worry, it's now legal for the judge and everyone else involved to get a nice present from Boeing, as long as it happens afterwards! :(
Regarding the "Can/should a CEO or officer be held liable?" dialogue, there is already at least one precedent. The 2002 Sarbanes-Oxley (SOX) Act: > The law states that if top corporate executives knowingly sign off on a false financial report, they’re subject to a prison term of up to 10 years and a fine of up to $1 million, with penalties escalating to 20 years and $5 million if their misconduct is willful. [0] Now,…
1. sounds like a variant of "everything is securities fraud"[1], where you can't prosecute someone for [bad thing] so you prosecute them for lying about [bad thing], where [bad thing] could be anything between causing global warming to getting hacked. 2. It's highly unlikely they'll ever get anywhere near the maximum[2]. [1] https://archive.is/p2YHV [2] https://web.archive.org/web/20130208124604/https://www.popeh...
As to securities fraud, if a publicly traded company lies facts material to criminal acts, then yes it should securities fraud -- particularly if it hurt the stock holders (and in this case it did!). This would be different than say a CEO cheating on his wife and lying about it.
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You're not the first person I've head of this idea from; it's from the NTSB charter The NTSB does not assign fault or blame for an accident or incident; rather, as specified by NTSB regulation, “accident/incident investigations are fact-finding proceedings with no formal issues and no adverse parties … and are not conducted for the purpose of determining the rights or liabilities of any person” But there was plenty o…
> That it works for you actually makes me feel less safe flying. Feel free to ask the flight crew next time you're on a 757. The service record of the 757 speaks for itself. I fly Iceland Air because their fleet consists of 757s. I literally bet my life on my work. > Boeing tried to blame the pilots The pilots were partially responsible. 1. First incident - the LA crew followed emergency procedures and continued the…
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LOL downvotes, delusional capital apologists.
1. People can disagree for other reasons than being an apologist. 2. Saying "1000%" like that is a bad comment , so don't assume the people that downvoted even disagree with you.
Boeing's actions resulted in the deaths of people on two planes.
Who will be personally accountable?
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If it does go to trial it would be great for people behind this to be directly tried for their criminal actions as well. The reality is that a company is on trial for the actions of individuals and if there is no follow through on that it will not change anything. I doubt it goes to trial as I am 99% sure that the judge will rubber stamp the whole thing because the US is a corporate driven hellscape where peasants ar…
Don't worry, it's now legal for the judge and everyone else involved to get a nice present from Boeing, as long as it happens afterwards! :(
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> That it works for you actually makes me feel less safe flying. Feel free to ask the flight crew next time you're on a 757. The service record of the 757 speaks for itself. I fly Iceland Air because their fleet consists of 757s. I literally bet my life on my work. > Boeing tried to blame the pilots The pilots were partially responsible. 1. First incident - the LA crew followed emergency procedures and continued the…
You can also read the Boeing documents. The hazard analysis listed MCAS as hazardous. By Boeing process controls, that should have mandated redundant sensors. Why were they optional? Because that could increase profits. (Seattle Times has done good reporting on this).
This remains omitted by the mass media, which contraindicates any of the reporting on it as "good".
There is also responsibility in the production of a faulty AOA sensor, and the failure of LA to fix the known faulty sensor, or inform the crew, before authorizing the next, fatal, flight.