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Pattern of brain damage is pervasive in Navy SEALs who died by suicide

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Post by cess11 »

hnbad wrote: post #395
lupusreal wrote: post #278

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I think cultural context can make the difference between a psychological traumatic event and another day at the office. Somebody who grew up on a farm might snap a chicken's neck without a thought, while a vegan city slicker being made to do the same might plausibly suffer severe psychological trauma. It may be the case that being from a society in which violence is glorified and made into a virtue makes people less…

Based on psychological research we know that early childhood trauma can help develop sociopathy. It's easy to see the effect of perpetual violence in terrorist hotspots like Palestine where children grow up to become terrorists because of the violence they experience in "counter-terrorism", which their existence as terrorists of course feeds into, repeating the cycle. As the saying goes "hurt people hurt people". I t…

You spelled "occupation" and "resistance to occupation" in ways that make them hard to recognise. Might want to not do that next time you bring up the subject.

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Post by cess11 »

jajko wrote: post #327
mike_hearn wrote: post #312

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> Historically countries didn't let women fight in wars because they didn't want their civilisation to die out. No, women have been excluded from front-line combat because they are physically weaker than men and would be killed quickly without accomplishing much. Men are just much more aggressive, have higher stamina etc. It's never been about repopulation. Nothing biologically stops a woman having 10 children with a…

Israel tried it some time ago. I don't agree women are weak per se, yes their peak in strength and stamina are lower as proven by literally any professional athletic sport, but this doesn't matter that much as before in current combat. What went wrong - in fubar situations, men instinctively lunged for protecting women, instead of rationally estimating situation and acting accordingly. We men are simply still too muc…

Resistance movements, notably in Europe during WW2 or the 'civil war' in Darfur, have commonly deployed women in combat roles.

It might be interesting to think about what sets them apart from regular armies, which have often had trouble in this area.

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Post by hollerith »

jajko wrote: post #340
mike_hearn wrote: post #317

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> What if they just spray a bunch of bullets in the general direction I am? From what I understand, real soldiers generally don't spray bullets like you see in movies or video games unless they are in a defensive machine gun nest or on some sort of vehicle. Ammo is an extremely finite and precious resource on the battlefield. You can't carry much with you, and you don't necessarily know when you can resupply, so ever…

A standard NATO soldier should carry 210 rounds of 5.56 ammo. That's 7 30-magazine clips if he actually has all of them in clips. If you ever saw any combat video, soldiers often fire a LOT, experienced or not (experienced just tend to hit more often). Maybe not a full auto, but nobody thinks in '1 bullet per enemy' mentality, self-preservation makes you overdo it, and they train you to not save on ammo unless you ar…

>>unless they are in a defensive machine gun nest or on some sort of vehicle

>U.S. forces have expended at least 250,000 small-caliber bullets for every insurgent killed in the present wars

Right, but it is that high because of the machine gun nests and vehicles.

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Post by mrguyorama »

mc32 wrote: post #423
tsimionescu wrote: post #408

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No, I do mean misogyny. Women are just as capable and willing as men to fight and defend. With modern weapons especially, there is no real difference between the fighting capacity of a woman and that of a man. And women are people in their own right, not things to be protected to perpetuate society. Also, women are not children. Children deserve protection because they don't know any better, their minds are not fully…

If going to war front as an infantryman were a privilege, we'd see the likes of Hollywood actors and actresses volunteer for the front as well as any wealthy folks and any other privileged folks --but they rarely do --this indicates it is not a privilege, but rather something the poor and of lesser means, those whose lives are worth less are sent to the front. It's violence, it's abuse. Sometimes someone has to endur…

>but they rarely do

World War 2 had a shitload of famous actors, athletes, politician's kids, etc go off to war. What are you smoking?

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Post by mrguyorama »

raffraffraff wrote: post #211
influx wrote: post #22

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Can’t men just identify as women to avoid the draft?

I'm not sure why you're getting downvotes for this because it's a pretty straight forward question with a non-obvious answer.

Ever tried to actually "change your gender"? It's not really a thing you can do any more than "becoming gay" if you are straight.

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Post by sofixa »

mrob wrote: post #479
sofixa wrote: post #218

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It's literally a question of life or death. If Ukraine surrenders, that could very well be the end of the country and ethnic/cultural identity. Look up what happens to Ukrainians captured by the Russian army - rape (irrespective of gender), torture, starvation, daily beatings, etc. Russia has kidnapped hundreds of thousands of kids too. Surrender is not an option. Unfortunately, everyone (men and women included) must…

They could pretend to surrender (ethically speaking, surrender can never be a valid contract because it's always performed under threat of violence, so feigned surrender is always a valid military tactic), pretend to integrate into society, and then continue fighting as guerillas. Slavery is always evil, including military slavery ("conscription").

You should look up what Russia does to captured Ukrainians, military or civilian, before spouting such nonsense.

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Post by FredPret »

coldtea wrote: post #273
Log_out_ wrote: post #206

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Thats a nice sentiment you got there. Mind if i take it: Every dictator everywhere everytime. And it turns out the international order cant survive defectors.one large party going imperial or isolatinist and its bsck to olden times.

Not one, but several large parties have been globally "imperial" for centuries. Except if by international order we mean "the will of the stronger dogs imposed upon the whole world, with tons of mayhem and blood, but it's not done to white people so it doesn't matter"?

Unsubstantiated sensationalism.

Violent deaths per capita is trending down both inside states and between states, and has been for nearly a century despite increases in tension and extreme improvements in weaponry.

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Post by actionfromafar »

relaxing wrote: post #508
actionfromafar wrote: post #268

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You just have to cut the Russian supply lines, the situations are completely different.

Just bomb the Ho Chi Minh trail through Cambodia, then the North will capitulate.

In your comparison, is Viet Cong Ukraine or Russia??

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Post by bitwize »

p51-remorse wrote: post #55
jrmg wrote: post #46

Artillery crew members who fired thousands of rounds in combat came home plagued by hallucinations and psychosis Could this problem also be affecting civilian gun enthusiasts? Or is the order of magnitude of the exposure just wildly lower compared to the military, even in the most enthusiastic?

If you ever get the chance, go shoot some small caliber weapons. I think everyone should at some point to have a baseline in their head for what guns are. Plus, I think it’d be good for people to know you can become really hard to hit by all but the best shooters by… walking away slowly in a zigzag. Near impossible if you run. And then if you have a chance to be around some small artillery, do that too. It’s hard to…

I was the victim of an attempted robbery in NYC. I had fired a pistol before, so when the robber threatened me with one (which he may or may not have had) I did some mental calculations and came to the conclusion to run, hard, in the direction where there seemed to be the most people. If he had a piece on him, by the time he drew it from his hoodie and aimed, I would be far enough away to make an accurate shot difficult... and if he missed he might hit someone down the road. I calculated he wouldn't be stupid enough to risk it.

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Post by moomin »

exe34 wrote: post #203
moomin wrote: post #31

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Ask anyone with half a brain who sincerely believes in gender equality if men should take a pay cut and they’ll say no, women deserve what the men are paid. The draft should work the same way.

i thought the "gender pay gap" was due to different jobs and amount of time worked - otherwise companies would hire only women and have to pay out way less in wages.

Take a look at the gender pay gap reports large companies produce. It’s very much a problem even with people sat next to one another doing the same job.

As I’ve said elsewhere in this thread, people take it as axiomatic that markets would react to this, but the evidence is strong that they don’t.

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